Discussion in 'Long Gun Accessories and Optics' started by greyling22, Jun 8, 2022.
You might be able to haggle the price down because "I want the rifle, and the scope is nice, but not what I really want for this rifle"
Scopes without such a warranty are a crapshoot, and I don't pay for them, retail or otherwise.
Some scopes are only worth value to a collector but worthless to a hunter. My 2x weaver on a 1946 Savage 99 comes to mind.
According to the dealer, the guy shot it 7 times. They say he's a regular and does things like this.
Hey, it happens, we’re just strolling along and bam, we’re in a gun store.
The scope retails for $1k? If you decide to flip it, you can pretty likely get at least $750 for it seeing how used Leopold's sell.
How close to 50% or 75% depends mostly on if I'm selling or buying. But condition matters too.
That's a steel, it's like buying a 1000.00 scope and getting a rifle for free.
Best optic I've had was a vx3l 3.5-10, it retailed for 984, but had been discontinued I paid 500.00 compared to my ff2 the Leupold was better but it should have been.
When I worked at the LGS, probably 1/3rd of the trade ins were either unfired or had less than a box of ammo through them
Not surprising at all. As I've written about my scope comparisons quite a few times here and there, I have/have had a bunch of scopes (well over 50) and have compared almost all of them carefully using an optical resolution target, and graded them on a chart that I made. These range from about $550 street price down to about $50. The group includes multiple models of Leupold, Sightron, Weaver, Burris, and Bushnell, and individual examples from Nitrex, Clearidge, Redfield, Japan Tasco, and perhaps some I'm forgetting. The average "street price" (what you could buy one for) was $373 according to my worksheet. Some cost more, some less.
Some findings from my years of testing:
1. If you have several scopes and you do this comparison, you will most likely be surprised at which of your scopes are actually better than some of the others.
2. If your test includes some of the Philippine-built Burris Fullfield scopes, they are likely to out perform some scopes that cost 2x - 3x as much as the Burris. The Timberline is also very good for a compact scope. (These are the only two Burris lines I've tested.)
3. Beyond the clarity and resolution thing, some scopes are just more pleasant to sight through than others, just seem to allow the eye to relax.
I set up like this:
Here's the type of optical resolution target that I use (photo is a bit blurry). I also study/compare the tree bark, colors, or other things, but the main clarity/resolution score is based upon the target.
Here's a clearer image of the target. What you do is determine the smallest set of 3 bars that you can clearly distinguish as being 3 bars. With the two scopes in the photo above set at the same magnification level, the Burris Timberline 4.5.14x32 allowed me to distinguish two sizes smaller bars than the Leupold 3-9x33 EFR.
Retailers will often run demo / open box sales. For all intents and purposes these are new scopes at used prices.
Check out this current sale at Sport Optics. There’s some good deals on high end glass. I had to get out before I did something stupid.
I have spent some time with a 5HD, it is a rather decent scope insofar as clarity, not to mention other features like build quality that may be overlooked. Sell it if you don’t care for it or keep it and see if it grows on you.
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