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What gun for Dinosaur and Mammoth

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Readyrod, Nov 4, 2012.

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  1. MrDig

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    I mentioned that one in post #3. Tho I'm pretty sure that I got the original link on THR.
     
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    LAWs rocket would do the trick, or maybe a Carl Gustav 57mm recoilless rifle? Chest shot would have the advantage of field dressing it with the shot...
     
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    A-10 with the 30 mm caliber GAU-8/A Avenger ;)

    That may not really be sporty or even legal so I would say a .458 Win. Mag. then have some buddy of mine carry the .50 BMG as back up... but make him carry it! :evil:

    Truth be known I think I would stick to the smaller of the dino. species... no T-Rex for me.
     
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    You know, 'dinosour' isn't particular animal type like 'mammoth' is and even 'mammoth' has a lot of variation. You could take a Microcertatops (also known as Microceratus, ~20 lbs., tops) with .17 hmr. Raptorex (150 lbs.) could be taken with about anything good for deer or hogs such as .223 to .45-70 or 12 ga slugs.

    Okay, African elephants up to 4m and 7500 kg, or about 8.5 tons. Then you have the Songhua River Mammoth - Mammuthus sungari that comes in closer to 17 tons and MUCH LARGER overall in size. http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9618399/1/ These, of course, should not be confused with the cute little pygmy mammoths such as were found on Santa Rosa Island that were only about 1 ton. http://www.nps.gov/chis/historyculture/pygmymammoth.htm
     
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    40mm Bofors
     
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    Atlatls were fatal to Mammoth. I don't see the AR15 lacking, better than a stick with a rock on it, and it'll kill anything that walks. Most devastating round on the planet because the bullet tumbles. I've learned this from the internet and the internet is always right.
     
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    The standard hunting weapon for mammoth was the atl-atl. This is a stick, curved up at one end and slightly down at the other. The hunter puts his dart (like an arrow on steroids) with the butt against the upward curve and holds the atl-atl by the other end. He brings it back over his shoulder and throws.

    Refinements include the Folsom point, held on by a piece of cane slipped over the end of the dart. On impact, the dart would bounce back, adding impetus to the stone point, which penetrated deeply.

    They also used "banner stones" -- which looked like a double bitted ax. The banner stone slid down the atl-atl and rested against the thrower's knuckles. As he threw, certrifugal force made it slide up the shaft, increasing the force of the throw.
     
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    Those Clovis people were brilliant. :D
     
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    A mammoth could reach an height of 13 feet at the shoulder and weighting 9 tonnes.....very large specimen could top 12 tonnes.

    A T. Rex could reach 13 feet height at the hip, 40 feet long and 7-8 tonnes in weigth.

    So I leave to your imagination the size of the bone structure to carry that weight......and the muscle mass and strength for the T.Rex to carry a body of that size at high speed....estimates for the top speed of a T.Rex vary between 20-25 mph and as high as 45 mph.

    I would say forget "stopping power" for a shouldered rifle or even for a 50 BMG....probably a reasonable hunt would require several people and a maiming strategy to bring down the animal.....no quick death....or, alternatively, a tank.....
     
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    I'd hunt T-Rex with a snare -- a steel cable and a log drag. Forget shooting him, at least until he's worn down and immobilized.
     
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    ....now if we talk about Dinosaurs in general things gets even more interesting (the T.Rex was nowhere among the largest)...

    A Brachiosaurus could reach an height of 39 feet and a length of 74 feet and reach 60 metric tonnes of weight


    ...then we get into the really big stuff.....estimates for the Argentinosaurus could reach 100 tonnes in weight and a length of 110 feet.....the spectacular Sauroposeidon could reach 59 feet in height (six store building height)

    The Amphicoelias, the largest of them all, could reach (estimates) 190 feet in length and 120 tonnes of weight.....Mark 7 naval guns anyone?? :D


    Even among the carnivorous dinosaurs the T Rex was not the largest....that honor goes to the Carcharodontosaurus which could reach 45 feet in length and 15 tonnes of weight....
     
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    No match for the .223. I know, I've read it on the internet. Did you know that the bullet tumbles? :D
     
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    Yeah, but what about ninja brachiosaurs?
     
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    THR deals in reality, and since there are no dinosaurs around these days lets call this done.
     
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