What guns can I take with me from AZ into California on a trip?

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Yeah the kids and grandkids wanna go to Dizzyland and I ain't going without a gun.
I know hand guns are highly restricted and maybe just a pump shotgun like my Rem 870 Express eh?
 
You can bring both.

Pistol, 10 round mags only, no threaded barrels. Keep in a lock box, you can have an empty magazine in it. Loaded mags may be in the box, just not loaded into the firearm.

The shotgun is good as long as it doesn't have a pistol grip AND a folding stock or detachable box magazine.

Come and have fun, skip the politics.
 
In the park? Not going to happen.
I figure he probably already knows, and just didn't phrase the question perfectly.

On the other hand, I did try to carry at Knott's Berry Farm a decade or so back and was stopped cold by the metal detectors. It just hadn't occurred to me, so of course had to trudge back to the car and rearrange everything while my family stood around at the gate, silently cursing their idiot father.
 
I figure he probably already knows, and just didn't phrase the question perfectly.

On the other hand, I did try to carry at Knott's Berry Farm a decade or so back and was stopped cold by the metal detectors. It just hadn't occurred to me, so of course had to trudge back to the car and rearrange everything while my family stood around at the gate, silently cursing their idiot father.
LOL
 
semi-auto shotguns can have a removable mag if you don't need a tool to remove it. otherwise fixed mag with a capacity of no more than 10 rounds. my mistake.
what the heck kind of law is that? How does that make any kind of sense? You would think they'd insist that you DID need to use a tool to remove the magazine, like with their dumb rifle mag bullet button laws.
 
What is the point? You obviously can't carry it in the park, and it won't even do you any good while driving there since it has to be unloaded and unaccessible in the car. You can't even carry it anywhere else, since CA does not respect any other state's permits.
 
Presumably the gentleman will be staying in hotels/motels. I don't blame him for wanting to be armed as much as possible. The state may more-or-less force him to be unarmed while he is traveling, but a shotgun unloaded in the trunk (and cruiser ready in the motel room) still is a fine plan - and legal in every state of the union, so far as I know.
 
what the heck kind of law is that? How does that make any kind of sense? You would think they'd insist that you DID need to use a tool to remove the magazine, like with their dumb rifle mag bullet button laws.
That kind of jarred me, too, and the only thing I could think of was (California logic, not mine) that if you did NOT need a tool, the "detachability" was designed in by the manufacturer and since it was "factory," that was OK.

The other things were: (A) poster was just plain wrong or (B) California firearms regulators were just plain stupid.

I selected (B) and went my merry way, even though expressing that opinion here breaks the Board Rule about speaking negatively about a class of people. LOL

Terry, 230RN
 
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With regard to the California magazine issue... I believe the current situation is that magazines can only be removed from "assault weapons" by disassembling the gun. That is, any sort of detachable magazine is forbidden, and the "cannot be removed with a tool" verbiage is intended to outlaw "bullet buttons" and such.

To the best of my knowledge, it only applies to semi-automatic long guns, and would affect neither the OP's pistols nor his 870.
 
Quoting Gov. Newsome "Laws don't have to make sense if they keep you safe." Dunno about that. I think laws should have some rhyme and reason behind them. Coming from a place where handguns are banned and certificates are needed for shotguns, rifles, even bb guns in specific situations I wouldn't know. Since I don't do theme parks like Disney or Sea World anyway I have no pony in the race.
 
Sorry, I was referring to semi auto shotguns, with more than one feature.

Some how, a folding stock with a pistol grip or detachable box mag, makes them more evil?

Same as a threaded barrel on a pistol, guess they forgot about the whole, being able to obtain a silencer! 🙄
 
All,

There's a lot bad information above concerning shotgun magazines. The key is that certain shotguns are "Assault Weapons" and a felony to import, or possess, without a permit or registration. The key requirements are contained in California's Penal Code section 30515 quoted in pertinent part below:

(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that does not have a fixed magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.​

Many years ago, California defined a "Fixed magazine" as one that required a tool to remove. That definition is now toast. The current definition is that the action of the weapon must be disassembled in order to remove the magazine.

Additionally, please note that Penal Code section 30510 defines a number of weapons as being "Assault Weapons" regardless of their features.

California also maintains a list of "Not Unsafe" handguns that can be sold to non-exempt persons ("The Roster"). The roster has no applicability to weapons bought into the state by visitors, but the "Assault Weapon" restrictions do apply.

California generally prohibits concealed carry (both on the person and in vehicles) and loaded carry. California has two very different definitions of when a weapon is loaded. Nearly all of the state is governed by the general definition, which requires that there be ammunition in the weapon, such that it could be fired by the normal operation of the weapon. Under the general definition there is no need to keep ammunition in a separate container. But certain places in the state, including a portion of the city of Sacramento, are governed by the special definition, which holds that a weapon is loaded when the weapon and ammunition are under the control of the same person.
 
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Yeah the kids and grandkids wanna go to Dizzyland and I ain't going without a gun.
I know hand guns are highly restricted and maybe just a pump shotgun like my Rem 870 Express eh?
I have to ask a rhetorical question. What are you afraid of? A shootout with Mickey Mouse and Woody from the Toy Story?

You'd be far better off making sure that you have enough money available on you credit card and sun block for the 2 hour wait in line for the ride on Space Mountain than to worry about carrying a gun into Disneyland. By the time you leave the park you're going to feel like you got robbed without a gun literally. By the way just about everything is cashless. So no one will be interested in trying rob you for your money. Because hardly anyone out there carries any to begin with anymore.

You have honestly started a controversial thread that is likely to get shut down here pretty quick.
 
I have to ask a rhetorical question. What are you afraid of? A shootout with Mickey Mouse and Woody from the Toy Story?

You'd be far better off making sure that you have enough money available on you credit card and sun block for the 2 hour wait in line for the ride on Space Mountain than to worry about carrying a gun into Disneyland. By the time you leave the park you're going to feel like you got robbed without a gun literally. By the way just about everything is cashless. So no one will be interested in trying rob you for your money. Because hardly anyone out there carries any to begin with anymore.

You have honestly started a controversial thread that is likely to get shut down here pretty quick.
The Disneyland park itself is extremely safe. Both the park, and it's servicing constabulary, are very focused on security. I really can't think back to an example of a serious crime being committed on the grounds. I once had an occasion to visit the park, while on duty as an LEO. I still had to check my weapons with the police facility, and coordinate my visit with their officials. One of the key points being their surveillance efforts and the prevention of "Blue on Blue" engagements between armed folks in the park.

That's a very different condition from that of the Six Flags park, north of Los Angeles. They kept a very robust security posture for many years, but recently seemed to have become very tolerant of gang activity in the park.

The areas surrounding Disneyland are a different story. That area is prime pickings for street crime, and the local crooks know it.
 
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