What guns can I take with me from AZ into California on a trip?

[.38 Special]

I'm not seeing any controversy. The guy wants to travel in California, doesn't want to go unarmed, and wants to be legal. It's actually pretty straightforward, and the only reason I can think for the thread to be shut down is that the question was answered in the very first post.

 

[Mk-211]

Im driving so theres that. Doh

Do you have the factory box? Is it lockable?

Is the vehicle that you will be driving have a trunk?

The trunk is considered separate from the occupants, and good to go.

 

[Mk-211]

There's also this.

Yes, you can have a firearm at your campsite in California, but there are many restrictions:

Campsite as a home
A campsite is considered your temporary home, so you can possess a firearm there. However, state and local laws may prohibit firearm possession at certain campsites.

National parks
You can possess a firearm in a national park, but hunting and target shooting are prohibited.

State parks
You can't possess a loaded firearm in California state parks, except in designated recreation areas.

National forest land
Possession of firearms in national forest land is regulated by the state and the county.

Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land
The BLM allows the use of firearms on public lands, but shooters must follow applicable laws and use firearms safely.

Concealed carry permit
If you have a concealed carry permit, you may be able to possess a firearm. *** CA residents ***

Other firearm laws in California include:

A U.S. citizen or legal resident over age 18 can generally carry a handgun anywhere on their property.

A handgun can be transported by motor vehicle if it's unloaded and locked in the trunk or a locked container.

Licensed hunters or fishermen can carry a concealed handgun while hunting or fishing, or while going to or returning from the expedition.

Drive an RV and go camping while here. Call ahead to be 100%.

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[LiveLife]

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, just a random layperson posting on THR.

There's a lot bad information ...

I agree.

Yeah the kids and grandkids wanna go to Dizzyland and I ain't going without a gun.
I know hand guns are highly restricted and maybe just a pump shotgun like my Rem 870 Express eh?

What his original thought was, I'm not going there without any protection.

He was just making sure that he could bring backup, in case he needed it ...

You are essentially be "importing" firearms into CA on your "vacation/visit" so following applies - https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#12

No concealed carry of handgun during visit.

12. I live in another state and have a permit to carry a concealed handgun that was issued in my home state. Does my permit allow me to carry a concealed handgun while in California?​

• No. CCW licenses/permits issued in other states are not valid in California.
  (Pen. Code, §§ 25400-25700.)

So you can only "transport" handguns in CA as a visitor and this is the requirement. [But with some creative thinking, you can make the "unloaded" firearms ready for action rather quickly while complying with CA storage/transport laws ]

​

8. Does California have a law regarding the storage of firearms? [When I "transport" handguns to shooting range/BLM areas, I keep loaded magazines NOT inserted into the handgun that DOES NOT have a chambered round and keep both in the SAME range bag/locked container farthest from me in the vehicle if there is no trunk. So for passenger cars/SUV/minivan, handguns in range bags/locked container is kept in the backseat or behind third row seat. For bags with zippers, I put a padlock through the holes in zipper pulls ... There are finger pad/biometric locked safes that can be placed within the vehicle as well that would allow quick access and simply inserting the loaded magazine will bring "unloaded" handgun to action.]​

• Yes. If you keep any loaded firearm within any premise which is under your custody or control and know or reasonably should know that a child (person under 18 years of age) is likely to gain access to the firearm, you may be guilty of a felony if a child gains access to that firearm and thereby causes death or injury to any person including themselves unless the firearm was in a secure locked container or locked with a locking device that rendered it inoperable.
  (Pen. Code,§§ 25100, 25200.)

And no magazines larger in capacity than 10 rounds.

25. I am moving into [visiting] California and I own several firearms. What are the ... requirements?​

• You are considered a personal firearm importer as defined by California law. You may bring all of your California-legal firearms with you, but ... You may not bring ammunition feeding devices with a capacity greater than ten rounds, machine guns, or assault weapons into California [During your visit].
  (Pen. code, §§ 17000, subd. (a), 27560.)

Definition of "Assault Weapons" - https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs#1​

 

[ojibweindian]

Yeah the kids and grandkids wanna go to Dizzyland and I ain't going without a gun.
I know hand guns are highly restricted and maybe just a pump shotgun like my Rem 870 Express eh?

I'd tell them no.

 

[wayneinFL]

I have to ask a rhetorical question. What are you afraid of? A shootout with Mickey Mouse and Woody from the Toy Story?

You'd be far better off making sure that you have enough money available on you credit card and sun block for the 2 hour wait in line for the ride on Space Mountain than to worry about carrying a gun into Disneyland. By the time you leave the park you're going to feel like you got robbed without a gun literally. By the way just about everything is cashless. So no one will be interested in trying rob you for your money. Because hardly anyone out there carries any to begin with anymore.

You have honestly started a controversial thread that is likely to get shut down here pretty quick.

Was the assumption that the OP was beaming his family into the park with a Star Trek transporter in the morning then beam the family home at the end of the day?

The dude is driving there from another state. I would assume he wants to keep his family safe on the road in AZ and CA, at gas stations, possibly hotels and other stops along the way.

 

[CaliforniaOutlaw2024]

Heck I didn't know some of those rules and regulations myself. Then again I don't make it habit to carry a pistol wherever I go. The capacity is most likely another issue for another thread. I do know somebody who shelled out cash for 4 magazines so he could have 40 rounds.
edit...Not condemning those who do, it's just not for me.

 

[.455_Hunter]

I totally support the concept of "being armed as much as possible". For family trips to CA, the process has been straight forward: The gun is a Model 64 snub, so no worries with magazine stipulations. During the day, it's secured unloaded in the air travel rated lock box with cable in the trunk, and the ammo (25 rounds) in a separate container. At night, it's brought into the hotel/motel room and loaded. In the morning, it's made ready for travel again. Flying out of LAX is a non-issue- they see A LOT of guns. Sure, one would not be able to respond to an instant situation like you can with a concealed carry weapon, but being able to have a weapon in hand in less than a minute during the day while near the vehicle was comforting.

 

[230RN]

"The areas surrounding Disneyland are a different story. That area is prime pickings for street crime, and the local crooks know it."

There ya go, Mauser Fan. I hope you didn't forget that factor. And since predatory street crooks know about the Park restrictions, wouldn't they love to pick on you while you walked there? And wouldn't they love to find a parked gun in your parked car?

Crooks have brains, just no morals.

It's funny how sometimes gun control (even private) can create a rich environment for crime. I had to laugh at Noo Yawk's declaring essentially everyplace as a "sensitive area."

I remember once (under unusual circumstances) telling a lady she was safer with me with a gun than with me without a gun. Took her a breath or two to catch on to that, then she laughed.

Terry, 230RN

 

[Mauser fan]

Was the assumption that the OP was beaming his family into the park with a Star Trek transporter in the morning then beam the family home at the end of the day?

The dude is driving there from another state. I would assume he wants to keep his family safe on the road in AZ and CA, at gas stations, possibly hotels and other stops along the way.

The question I asked wasn't for anyone to make any assumptions, presumptions or another conjunction that included myself.

The question was to say think about what you are asking to do because if he listens to any other keyboard Commando's that say go for it. Then he could very well get himself into more trouble than it is worth.

Further-more there is more factual information in my post than the smart !@# question I asked. Such as Disneyland is an almost entirely cashless vendor and it does take up to a 2 hour wait in some of the lines.

Just maybe he might find that more helpful than wether or not he can or cannot meaning that it is legal or illegal to bring a firearm into the state of California.

It wouldn't be worth the hassle is all I'm saying. But that is entirely up to him to decide what he can or cannot do.

Jeremy

 

[ilbob]

I remember once (under unusual circumstances) telling a lady she was safer with me with a gun than with me without a gun. Took her a breath or two to catch on to that, then she laughed.

Terry, 230RN

She is much safer with the bear. Just ask any feminist.

 

[dodo bird]

Taking a road trip armed should never be controversial.

 

[Mauser fan]

You're right it shouldn't be. But this is the world we live in now.

 

[230RN]

Taking a road trip Being armed should never be controversial.

She is much safer with the bear. Just ask any feminist.

You ask one, not me.

The special circumstances were that a neighbor lady came over to chat with me while I was unpacking my station wagon and she noticed a bunch of targets sitting there. This started the conversation blah-blah-blah and it ended up (happily) with my remark about safety:

"I remember once (under unusual circumstances) telling a lady she was safer with me with a gun than with me without a gun. Took her a breath or two to catch on to that, then she laughed"

 

[Miami_JBT]

Prior to COVID, one could carry on Disney properties in FL as long as you were concealed and didn't raise the attention of security. They had simple metal detectors prior to COVID and the staff working 'em didn't much care what set them off.

 

[BreechFace]

What is the point? You obviously can't carry it in the park, and it won't even do you any good while driving there since it has to be unloaded and unaccessible in the car. You can't even carry it anywhere else, since CA does not respect any other state's permits.

I’m taking a firearm every time I’m going to CA, following state laws of course. Will it help in an off guard attack, no. But it sure would be nice to forego being worried about state laws if the “summer of love” comes back online during my visit as I try and get my family out.

 

[1KPerDay]

don't think the op is going to run into rolling 20's or bloods while waiting to snap a photo of the kids with goofy. this is anahiem not belfast or even derry. lol.

I’ve stayed in some pretty iffy motels around the park, where I would have welcomed a shotgun in the corner.

Carrying in the park should be permitted by law abiding people, IMO, like it should be permitted everywhere. However I don’t make the rules, and choose to leave my personal defense to Mickey and Mickey while being robbed, er…. I mean, enjoying the magic inside the park. Thankfully you can either choose to enter or not.


To the OP make sure you ride it’s a small world ride 18 times in a row

 

[plainsdrifter]

It's a perfectly legit question and sure assume whatever. I have read the rules about weapons in Disneyland.
While I've been there before that was a good 30 years ago and you could drag a cooler in there with booze in it or ice or dang near anything. Not now.

I have lived in the Bay Area in the early 80's and drove around (doing flooring) with a pump shotgun (loaded) behind the bench seat in the ole Chevy P/U. CHIPS found it when I got pulled over (still had AZ plates) and when the LEO opened the driver door empty beer cans fell out. LOL Hey, I was going with the flow on the 580 after a long night working high rise in downtown SF. LEO says "Son, you ain't in AZ no mo no mo no mo. And let me off with a warning and emptied the rounds out of it. I told him I was working in downtown Oakland all night and felt safer with my good ole Mossberg.

Considering how fast rules change in CA I think the question should be asked by anyone thinking of visiting.

 

[plainsdrifter]

I’ve stayed in some pretty iffy motels around the park, where I would have welcomed a shotgun in the corner.

Carrying in the park should be permitted by law abiding people, IMO, like it should be permitted everywhere. However I don’t make the rules, and choose to leave my personal defense to Mickey and Mickey while being robbed, er…. I mean, enjoying the magic inside the park. Thankfully you can either choose to enter or not.


To the OP make sure you ride it’s a small world ride 18 times in a row

Ya got me beat. Last time it was three times. Ugh.

 

[.38 Special]

To the OP make sure you ride it’s a small world ride 18 times in a row

I believe I now understand the point of the gun restrictions: suicide prevention.

 

[Will Munny]

I'd tell them no.

This. There are a million good reasons not to give your money to the likes of the Disney company. Spend the money on Ammo and take the kids to the range instead.

 

[.38 Special]

Considering how fast rules change in CA I think the question should be asked by anyone thinking of visiting.

I live here and still had to double-check the "detachable magazine" business. There may not be a human alive who can fully explain every California gun law.

 

[CaliforniaOutlaw2024]

i wonder if one could get an exemption like certain class of drugs for religious purposes? Of course it would have to be worded carefully. Simply saying it was part of the ceremony to fondle hard, long barrels sounds too sexual. lol.

 

[plainsdrifter]

I live here and still had to double-check the "detachable magazine" business. There may not be a human alive who can fully explain every California gun law.

I believe it says that so you cannot reload with other mags quickly as that would make it one of them dark assault weapons.

 

[CapnMac]

There is an interesting contrast in this, if OP were consider driving the other way and head to I-20 and turning right on I-75 to Orlando.
(Or, maybe Head to Jackson, then pick up 84 to Mobile to get to I-10.)
Ok, that's easily another four days' driving just the one way, but it would be a far more "permissive" route. Only "iffy" part would be NM, and only because I'm not up-to-date on any mag restrictions they have.
Ok, 30+ hours and 2100 miles to go to the other Moushouse maybe not worth it. That, and the tough part is just how long a drive in Florida it would be.