Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by kamagong, Jul 7, 2009.
That's been my plan as well.
1. Make sure they are well schooled in the safe way to handle it and care for it.
2. Proven to be reliable, not subject to problems.
3. Ammunition readily available.
For the basic safety and shooting training, suggest you teach 'em on .22 LRs...you can get in a lot of training for next to no money.
Maybe thats why your agenda struck me as... advanced.
I agree. You do have odd children.
Also, don't fall into the "stuff trap" (working extra hours to buy things for them rather than working less hours to spend time with them). Just my .02.
At this point, there is not many choices that meet #3.
Odd children... or odd parents?
Single barrel shotgun.........
My old Dad taught me to shoot & let me hunt on the farm, at 12 years old, with an old beat-up 16 ga. single barrel shotgun.......about 57 years ago. He taught me to make that one shot count. I have that old 16 ga. here at home now.
A couple years later he bought me my own, a 20ga. I used it many years.
It was passed down to my older son.
My younger son wanted to start out with a 12 ga.
Each of my boys got their own single barrel and a single shot .22 rifle.
Dad thought that was a pretty good start. Me too.
My younger son turned 34 years old in May. He's an avid hunter, all year round. My older boy will go out for a rabbit hunt with us once in awhile.
All of their kids have learned to shoot.
AR15 with gobs of mags
M1A with gobs of mags
Remington 870 Wingmaster with multiple barrels
Bolt action .223
Bolt action .308
Stainless Competition Model (slab side) mark 2 pistol
Glock 19 with gobs of mags
2 1911s with gobs of mags
2 k frame .38
2 k frame .357
1 k frame .22
2 bolt action .22 LRs
Plenty of factory ammo for all. I've got two Dillon 550Bs, and a fair supply of components. Spare parts/springs for most. There are other assorted guns, but these are the core holdings I want each to have as they enter the world.
daughter; as she is the only child. Its quite a nice, small collection;
well worth the time and expense it took to put it together~!
I guess I just like the idea of guns being passed down and/or given that have some sort of meaning/memories behind them. Getting a laundry list of firearms given to you seems to...cheapen the idea somehow.
Not saying that giving somebody a gun as an "atta boy" for graduating high school or whatever isn't a a great idea, because that has meaning. Getting 4-5 guns for hitting adulthood just seems...spoiled.
Nope on the shoes and cars. Yep on the guns. Hopefully on the college. It's how I choose to spend my disposable income and how I spend a heck of a lot of time with my kids (and soccer, baseball, etc). Sorry if it doesn't fit your idea of proper parenting, gift giving, or financial management. My kids are both bright, do well in school, play nicely with other kids, interact well with adults, and seem pretty happy. Seems to work for us.
I'm not sure I will give them these when they turn 18 (The older I get the less "adult" that age seems). Probably after they settle down and I won't be worried about them selling them to fund a donor-cycle
From my grandfathers I received nothing, which under the circumstances is fine by me.
When my father died I received his M65 3 inch .357 he carried as a detective and later sergeant, as well as the IBM M1 carbine I bought him.
I have no children, my nephews won't get them as one's a child molester and the other's a thug in juvenile detention. Hopefully my 3 nieces will marry shooters.
I agree, my experience was different than most I guess. My dad and an old uncle taught me to shoot and taught me a love of country, of hunting, and of shooting. Then, when I developed a passion for shooting, my father required me to earn the money to buy me first gun, a Mossberg 500. I'll always treasure that gun because of the work I had to put into it from delivering newspapers and detasseling for a whole summer. There's more blood sweat and tears in the ole shotgun then in my finest AR. Though I'm in my late 30's, my dad is still alive and LORD willing, will be for many years to come. When he passes, I'm sure I will inherit several of his guns, they will mean alot to me, and will go right beside the ole Mossberg. Just my .02
When they were designed, they were most likely designed by one person, to fit that person's model of what he thinks he needs.
It seems obvious to me, but when I look at tools, I see some dude going through his life then all of a sudden he has a hiccup, and as a result he creates a pump action shotgun, or a bolt action rifle, or a semi-auto pistol, or a lever action rifle.
Some you pull back, some you push forward, some you turn sideways, some you don't really even mess with (break actions), some that are quite simple, like open bolt designs.
These tools are formed by two things, which each have an infinite number of possibilities associated with them -
Designs come from your knowledge of your tools and your abilities, realized or not.
Designs also come from your particular situation.
I think it's entirely possible that two people who have the same tools and the same interests could invent the same thing independently. I think this is true because of the possibilities granted to you by your understanding of yourself and your tools.
It's kinda like a script for a computer, the way I see it. Each choice effects thousands of other choices instantly, and in seconds one idea can grow tremendously.
I've tested my theory with everything I've done. People say you need years of experience and practice to do what I do. With cable installs, my own tinkering I do sometimes produces an item a lot better than I'd hoped for, and with hobbies as well. For example, I took up axe throwing on a whim at a friend's house. until this point, I'd never intentionally thrown an axe in my life. The other day I did, from about 15 feet away. I missed a couple of times at first, but once I hit it the first time, I could hit it all day long. Running, squatting, jumping, going backwards, blah blah etc etc.. these were no longer factors, because I knew how the axe flew. In any given situation, I know how that axe is gunna fly. Picked it up really fast, and I finally got my own target setup so I can throw my own axe at it.
Point in case - I think you can look at your kids personality and realize that if his primary concern at that moment was shooting stuff, he might do it this way.
Or, if you observe your kid running up to threats on a regular basis, without regard for himself or anything else, you might want to get him a shotgun.
Or, if you observe your kid observing a threat before he interacts with it, might wanna get him a good scoped rifle.
I'll split my collection and my dad's with them and their cousins since in my family firearms are heirlooms.
All he owns, save for those he deems necessary for his wife's use.
a 22 pistol (a browning buckmark which is so accurate he likes as is)
a reminton 1100 12 gauge
and next in line will go something like this:
a 16" ar15.
a mosin nagant 91/30
a springfield m1 garand (a cherry)
a 1911 (model still to be decided.)
a springfield m1a national match rifle.
and on my 60th birthday, a barrett model m82 semi auto 50 cal.
the rest will be up to him, but i expect all of the ones i give him to be handed down to my 1 and only grandson.
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