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What handgun points more naturally for you

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by george burns, Jan 26, 2015.

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  1. 460Shooter

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    I find the 1911 grip angle pretty comfortable to aim with, but honestly I don't really find many guns not "naturally pointable". I pick up a gun and focus on the sights and shoot it. I find grip size and trigger reach to be much bigger issues for me, as I wear extra large gloves, and find many grips too small.
     
  2. george burns

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    It's the gloves, I use them also, probably not as heavy as yours K, but I have to adjust for them.
    It does make shooting easier for me, if I am using a high caliber gun and just feels like you have a tighter hold for me.
    I also use the old Skateboard tape on those little pocket guns. You can buy a whole role on Amazon for 4-8 dollars instead of paying 20 bucks for 1/10th the amount pre cut. It takes all of 10 minutes to cut out what you want and apply as needed. But that is a real grippe surface, maybe too much for many.
    But one thing I know is that when I go to get that little PM9 or 380 out, it's coming out.
    The Glock and 1911, tend not to need it, or if they do, just a strip or two in key locations.
    I guess most of you already know these things, but for those who never tried, it's an easy way to cut down on hand pain and secure that draw for a pocket gun.
    Oddly enough it doesn't stick to anything but my hand, I have the last order of the tape I got, which I love on my Kahrs if anyone want's it just PM me.
    Another trick I learned is to use Velcro on your pocket holster, and your inside pocket. A strip "again" from Amazon is a few bucks, and I use Velcro on a lot of things from holsters to my wife's Tablet, to keep the case securely on.
    It's good for almost anything you want to temporarily secure. Even extra rounds on a mount for a shotgun. I took a remora holster that I love, and put a clip on it just for when I want to use it IWB instead of in my pocket on gym pants or shorts.
    It isn't for a lot of weight, but will keep a few ounce item in place.
     
  3. Panzerschwein

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    Samuel Colt DEFINETALY got it right back in the 1850's.

    I fondled by Colt 1851 Navy last night, BOY does it point so well! The grip is just PERFECT!!! too. Can't wait till it warms up and I can get this little smoke pole out to the range to spit fire and lead balls!
     
  4. Furncliff

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    1911. It constantly surprises me how natural the body, pistol and target find alignment with so little deliberate thought involved.
     
  5. 19-3Ben

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    There are two guns that fit my hand and point like nothing else for me.
    1) 3" ruger SP101 with Hogue monogrip.
    2) Kahr K series.

    For me, they are so natural and so intuitive I can almost target shoot with my eyes closed. it's just amazing.

    1911 and Ruger Speed Six are very very close runners up.
     
  6. chris in va

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    Natural 'pointability' is a subjective thing.

    If you start with a Glock 17 and use it for years, muscle memory will automatically have it on target every time. Switch to a CZ 75 or 1911 with a more 'natural' grip angle and point shots will hit low.

    I had this problem with the G21sf I had for a few months. Having shot CZ 's for a while, I had to consciously push the 21's muzzle down and line up sights before it would hit where aimed. It just got to the point where I couldnt keep switching between platforms and I sold it.
     
  7. AK103K

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    I think its more of a head game for some, than its really an issue of grip angle.

    If you track the sights, its a non issue. If you point shoot, and have spent any quality time with any of them, its a quick readjustment, and usually accomplished within the first mag, or a few presentations.

    I shoot all manner of things, back and forth, and have had no issues switching. A couple of quick draw and presents, and Im usually right on track.

    The only things that might take longer to adapt to, are things that are new to you, that you dont have the experience with yet to have your brain register them. With the majority of things all being pretty close grip angle wise anyway, its really not a big deal as far as grip, as it is with controls and MOA's.
     
  8. 45_auto

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    Exact same experience here. I shoot 1911's in IPSC - 1911's, S&W and Ruger revolvers, and Glocks in IDPA - and Glocks in GSSF. Do pretty well with all of them, I've won more 1911's with the 1911's and more Glocks with the Glocks!

    The mechanics of the controls is different. My thumb works the same way on a 1911 or Glock, rides the safety down when my finger goes to the trigger. Except that there's no safety on the Glock, so it really doesn't matter.

    Change something like the mag release to an H&K paddle, and I have to stop and think rather than running on muscle memory for a mag change.
     
  9. TarDevil

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    I'm gonna go weird...

    My SR9c is the best in my hand. BUT...

    I've got a Bryco 48 I almost gave away before someone here suggested I get the necessary part from Jimenez to get it running. The sights are disgustingly horrible, but danged if I can't print an awfully tight group with that gun, poor sights and all.

    Just saying...
     
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  10. Jim Watson

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    I used to pay attention to such stuff. But after shooting the same family of guns (1911) for a few decades, I find that they point very "naturally."
    Strangely enough, a friend who has been shooting Glocks with their Lugeresque grip angle since introduction says they point "naturally", too.
     
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    Pointing

    This one.....it's like pointing my finger.
    Pardini Free pistol: Pardiniinhand.jpg
     
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    S&W 3913. I wish I'd found it years earlier.
     
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    Whitney Wolverine
     
  15. 460Shooter

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    Exactly
     
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    1911 is best, glock fanatics have a screw loose I think. Nothing special about a Glock now a days, way better options like the Springfield XDM plus you get a better grip angle.
     
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    I own 38 handguns (discounting duplicates, perhaps 20-24 different) and I cannot answer this question because, to me, none of them impresses me as being a remarkably more natural "pointer" than any another.

    Perhaps it has something to do with being so familiar with them all that, once in-hand, I hold each in its own unique way.
     
  18. AK103K

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    I think thats the answer.

    Many seem to be one brand or type shooters, and anything thats different from their choice, is inferior. Human nature I guess.

    The fact is, the inferiority doesnt lay with the guns. ;)
     
  19. Sam1911

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    If you go back to the "why" of the ergonomics of a Glock, it isn't necessarily a bad thing. They were designed with a view to a certain modern technique of pistol shooting and work very well for that.

    Being an xDM fan, I'll be the first to say that a) there's nothing "way better" about an xDM or M&P that outclasses a Glock in any way, and b) not "better," just different. Slightly different.
     
  20. Teachu2

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    I've never shot a handgun that pointed naturally. All required practice and concentration to develop muscle memory that allows me to consistently get on target quickly with them. The more I train, the more "naturally" the gun handles.

    Between 1980 and 1983, I shot 1911s 10-12k rounds a year. After that, much less. At one point, I didn't any handgun for about eight years. I decided to check out a new local indoor range, and they were having a pistol shoot that very evening. I ran home, got out a 1911, and went back - just in time to enter but not practice. The event was 25 yards offhand on a bullseye target. Five rounds practice, change target, five more for score. I scored in the top third.
     
  21. joe_security

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    Im with jcv. Two years of my 3953 with Houge grip and my Glock 26 now feels too stubby to fit my hand without the factory "plus two" thingy. With the stock plastic grip the S&W would be too slippery. To me this is ergonomic perfection and its never missed a beat with the three new magazines I purchased for it. The Safariland 0701 security holster makes it an unbeatable combo for me. Runner up for me would be 1911A1.
     
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  23. 45_auto

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    No way a Ruger MkI can point naturally.

    I can't count the number of people that I've listened to complain about the Glock grip angle, then shoot a Ruger MkI, II, or III and comment on how well they point.

    Then they look at you funny when you point out that the Glock and Ruger have the same grip angle ....
     
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  25. ADKWOODSMAN

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    1911 the MOST fun gun to shoot!!!
     
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