Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by horsemen61, Jan 7, 2018.
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Good point, maybe a spring time mod.
Ordered and received a bunch of MTM ammo boxes and a few more cans to keep things organized. Put factory PD loads in P-50 red boxes for all my current calibers. Ordered up some Berry's boxes for easy differentiation of my 357 sig, 40s&w, and 45 ACP reloads and PD loads.
Made some trades/deals with some members to obtain components for 357sig and 40s&w. Ordered dies for these two as well to find that they are backordered.
Running my wet tumbler as I type this. I run it with stainless pins, hot water, a tbls of Lemishine and about 3 ozs of Armor all wash and wax, for about 3 hours. Also sized ~300, 9mm cases
If you don't mind, I'm curious, do you get any discolored cases from using that much citric acid with the pins?
A tablespoon of Lemi-Shine seems like a lot for when using stainless steel pins.
A lot of the people that run pin cleaners say you can't use that much lemi-shine when tumbling with pins.
You will get either pink brass from leaching out the zinc, or gray colored brass from some sort of impact plating effect.
I don't buy into the pink brass idea, that to much citric acid is causing it, because I use 1/4 cup of 50% liquid citric acid solution and that would be equivalent to 2 table spoon of Citric acid in my Ultrasonic for 4 quarts of water. It's a stiff mix but ultrasonic cleaners are non-impact.
It's like 2.9 Ph solution.
I've gotten maybe one pink case out of 6 months worth of fired brass with that solution since I started using it.
My cases are clean and shiny in 10 minutes. I also put a squirt of Dawn in there, but wash and wax would do the same thing.
I think the pink cases are cases that the brass has been activated from laying out side or somewhere the elements have gotten to them, and the citric acid turning it pink is just pointing out the fact that the brass has been compromised.
The stainless steel plating effect is real though. Too many members that pin clean, have said that to much citric acid turns their brass gray.
I can see that happening.
Edit: Corrected something.
Doesn't seem to be turning anything pink. I've been doing it this way for 8 or so years and have never noticed it. I've tried it with my well water and the "city" water and it still turns out the same. Maybe the Armor all keeps it from turning pink. I don't know.
Found off how off my crimp die was during seating. Removed 15 bullets, they have a nice ring around them so, more waste. I was weighing the powder out of them and most were where I set them maybe .1-.2 as not all of the powder could be recovered.. However 5 were 1.5 grains light. Scales are reading check weights correctly so I'm like how does that happen? So rather than think about removing 100 bullets because now I have doubt as to all them being where they need to be. I'm walking away for now. Just weighing the loaded rounds and any that seem too light, they'll get pulled. Wasted more bullets and cases than I have loaded and fired. About to just be done with reloading as the only gear I can seem to get is for the rich guys, and this cheap stuff is costing me more to use. Ugh..
I never really understood the obsession for perfectly shiny brass. with my pistol stuff, if it goes bang every time. I’m ok with that.
Yup, I've seen you say this in the past.
Fine for vibratory but will not work in a tumbler with S/S pins soap and water........
Don't ask me how I know.........
Ran a load of .308, .223, and .224 Valkyrie brass through the wet tumbler and it's in the dehydrator now. Primed and loaded some ladders in .308 with 150&165gr interlocks and 8208 XBR. Also pulled some LC .223 brass put to try with 8208XBR and 75gr BTHP'S. Probably get to those tomorrow! I enjoy getting my grubby paws on a powder I've never used before!
Busy day in the reloading room this evening.
Separated the brass from Sunday's shooting extravaganza.
Bins full of .44Spl, .41Magnum, .45Colt, .44Magnum, .357Magnum, 10mm and .45ACP.
I tumbled the .44Spl, .41Mag and .45Colt brass in separate tumblers for four hours with walnut media.
Tomorrow I have .44Magnum brass to tumble along with a bunch of mixed rifle and SuperMag brass from previous shooting trips to tumble.
Hopefully while that is tumbling I will be able to process the brass I tumbled today and maybe even get them primed.
This retirement thing is like having a ful time job...all I seem to do is shoot my guns, process brass and reload ammunition.
Man... What a terrible job...
It's tough duty but somebody has to do it.
Loaded up a couple dozen 308 rounds. Seated 2 too short, so when everyone's not sleeping I'll use the puller to get them right. I have 5 in new brass to test for function and accuracy. The rest are proven loads to use up the last of my bullets. They're not doing any good just sitting in the box.
Oh, and also I inventoried my powder, primers, and bullets. There were some tense moments, but at least I know what to get. I actually have more powder left than thought. Bullets, brass, primers, & powder are the limiting components, in that order.
I finish a trigger polishing job on my brand new CZ P07 , and lighter springs too
I forgot the best part. My Lee powder measure doesn't drop very accurate charges for extruded powder like the IMR 4064 I was using. It's not the measures issue. I think all powder measures have a little trouble with these types of powder.
I usually drop a light charge and trickle up. Cleaning up/emptying the powder measure adds a couple of steps I wanted to eliminate.
Enter the Lee dipper that came with my 308 dies. Fill the coffee mug I commandeered for the reloading bench about half full, add one scoop of powder to my scale from the mug, plus a little more, trickle to charge and done. Empty the mug back into the powder container and empty my trickler and cleanup is done.
Walked past my press today and she gave me a very lonely and neglected look. Been my buddy that I spend at least an hour a day with and now we haven't produced in a month. Felt like the you havent got me tacos in a while look from my girlfriend..... headed out today to see if I can find her some new bullets to eat....
It's a heartbreaking look isn't it? My wife can get her own tacos. Shes not bolted to the reloading bench with all the wrenches out of reach.
Seating and crimping in one step can be tricky. Don't get too frustrated. Take a deep breath.
When you say cheap stuff, I'm making the leap that you have Lee dies. I've used Lee dies for more than 3 decades; they are good equipment, but the setup is crucial.
Go back to your die instructions, and read them over again. There is a step-by-step setup, and each step needs to be done correctly and in order to set it up. Take it slow; Lee is known for having somewhat opaque instructions. If you can't get it, call Lee and ask for some help. They have always been responsive to me.
Once the dies are correctly setup, the loading will smooth out. The system does work. The seat/crimp operation is the same, no matter which brand you use.
After typing all that, I will say that I seat and crimp in separate operations now, no matter which brand of dies I use. I go the extra bucks and get another die.
I like lee dies, I like lee products. When I first started reloading, people were like “don’t get lee, it pot metal” me being a decent cook with All-Clad pot was like... really
Mine, too. Went upstairs after bowling to cipher out my next loads for 9mm and .45ACP. I initially was trying to work up new loads for the 200grn .45 bullets, but I'm almost out of them... and no replacements on the horizon. I did score some 230's from Midway of all places, a few weeks ago, but I use Unique for those. I will likely load up the rest of the 200's with W244 and be done with it.
I took some 9mm test loads on vacation over Christmas... I had it in my mind they were with SportPistol, after reviewing my data they were with W244. I've got the rest of a box of Berrys 147's to load... I guess with W244.
I also scored a box of 115grn Speer GoldDots, I've decided to load them over TiteGroup. I hate TiteGroup, but admit it works well 115 and 124grn 9mm.
Next range trip is in 6 weeks... so I have some work to do.
Last night a PC’d these Keith bullets in the most ridiculous color. My wife likes the .44mag rounds that I load down to .44special and she wanted pink.
On the plus side, there will be no mistaking those rounds for something else !
You ain’t kiddin!! They are awful lol!
Pink is the new tactical camo
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