Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by horsemen61, Jan 7, 2018.
Pull the decaping pin now before you forget...
Brand new RCBS carbide dies, first thing I did was pull the decapping pin. I put it back in the box and it will probably stay there as I deprime everything I shoot on a dedicated press with a universal decapper.
Now, I have reloaded quite a few jacketed bullets mostly 240 gr .429 using W296 in the 24.7 grain range (Speer # 10 , now dropped to 24.0 in Speer #14) for my Ruger Redhawk.
Before getting into the lead bullets, I'm going to load some of the following which I have in stock or recently purchased.
The Henry will be used to hunt in one of our special regs areas which up to now limited use to shotguns. Straight walled cartridges are now permitted.
I have 240 grain Speer bullets. #4447 JSP, #4454 Magnum soft points ( these are my oldest runs of reloads), #4453 JHP, IMI 240 soft points ( all those are .429), HDY 240 XTP .430, Hdy 225 FTX .430 and 180 gr Sierra HP .4295.
My powders available for the above loadings are W296, H110, IMR4227.
I'll load near max and will probably venture up close to Speer manual 10 max loads as I check my chrony.
I think thats all good. Now to lead part.
I was gifted about a thousand lead bullets for .44. .430 and lubed.
They are 18 BHN which is a bit harder than alloy #2 if I read the Lynman book correctly.
I have loadings in Speer #10 that run lead at around 900.
I think I read that above 1100, gas checks are needed so I had to google what a gas check is. The Lyman manual gets these bullet up over 1300 but the bullet most closly resembling my bullets are Lyman #429667 which is listed as needing a gas check.
I googled making gas checks, saw that some boolit molds have a slight taper to receive a gas check. Looks like a fair amount of relearning for this old guy.
I suppose in just typing this, I may very well load these as plinkers and not a serious deer round.
I doubt I'll get into casting my own.
Would those of you familiar with loading lead have any input on how I should load the ones I have aside from my marginal knowledge about lead.
I'll use these up because the Henry is hungry and iI may purchase additional lead boolits if Henry is happy.
Can I buy lead with gas checks or is that something done with each loading?
I have seen multi colored lead coatings. Whats the purpose? Lubrication or sizing to rifling?
Any bits and pieces of info or links to explain further will be appreciated.
Man, my 2 typing fingers are tired already.
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In pistol bullets it is my firm conviction gas checks are not needed... in rifle if 2000 fps is desired or above they are a great idea.... because rifles in 44 sometimes have slightly larger chambers I always recommend slugging. Using a chamber cast will give you a ton more information and might be worth your time.... if your doing it yourself. If you have any leading a bottle of alox may help.
Starline new brass
125 gr, XTP
17.8 gr N110
CCI 500 primer
230gn JHP Nosler
Fed 150 Primers
Fed +P Nickel cases
Saw some data posted using up to 6.4gn 231 with this bullet on Handloader Magazine page, but I never used that for even the RN bullets. These hollow points seat WAY down. Did this before up to 5.5gn with different cases...it's probably fine...
The Range has a great deal in June. Youths under 18 are free when accompanied with adults. They even gave her a free ice cream bar when she left. She said that she didn't enjoy the shooting as much because of the weather and preferred indoor air rifle but she would return again with a friend. The next time I'll have a friend there and I'll just sit there (adult supervision) and watch them shoot at tin cans.
Today's 45-70 ladder was nothing to brag about. So back to the previous recipe of 65grs FFg. Wind was gusty and rotating around the range 180deg back to quartering to front on. Messy.... still better than a day at work though.
Ready to set up on the Cease-Fire
Nosler brass, New
How do you like the 147 eldm? Bryan Litz has stated that the 147 eldm isn't really all that great, in his personal experience, ballistic wise and he recommended the 140gr eldm instead. His Facebook page has super in depth Info on ballistic data as his benchrest shooting and work with bullet manufacturers gives him lots of time behind different loadings.
Been good so far, haven't reached out with them tho. They had some blow ups with early bullets so some people stoped using the 147. These are the last Of the old lot I have but been fine. They have been good on game considering there not ment for animals, my prc with the 24" has touched 3100 fps with the 147 but backed way down from that.
Wow, nice velocity with such a short-ish barrel, I'd figure with a prc case you'd want at least 26 to 28 inches... I'm glad they work well for you but if you are aiming for the vital zone of a deer or elk at 200 yards I'm sure they are more than enough bullet.
Big time carbon build up and a carbon ring just in front of the chamber. And that was with the naked eye, will be running the bore scope in there later this evening.
Curious his preferred powder seems like it's common with some...
Sorting 250-3000 savage brass… had a lot!!!! Of split brass. A lot of it was some stuff Grandpa reloaded… I suspect that the old eyes may have let him down… or else he mixed up one of the 4064s(H,Imr,Accurate). The rest is all sorted by head stamp. Oh, all but 1 or two of the splits were R-P brass…
I’m scrubbed one recently myself. A 9mm of a friends. He shot some reloads of unknown origin(NOT WHAT I Would do!!!!). Never! Ever! Have I seen that much build up in a 4 in barrel!! I finally put a liberal coat of bore shine and let it soak for 30 hours. Then it wiped right out. Looked like mud on patches.
The new Hornady manual states to trim the .44 mag brass down more than I'd like to for that specific bullet.
The .44 specials are a bit too short but I'm thinking about trying them with .44 mag minimum loads and working up if they chrony and group ok.
I'll read more or Google/ YouTube to see others results before proceeding with caution.
These will run thru my 20" Henry
Where the neck of the chamber ends.
The start of the lands.
6 to 8 inches up the barrel, it all looks the same from the lands to around 10" up the barrel.
About 1/3 to 1/2 way up the 26" barrel.
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