Discussion in 'Hunting' started by aguyindallas, Sep 17, 2006.
Or when you've just gotten too old to carry that old M114 around with you anymore...
I didn't hunt hogs, but my dad, he went to Arkansas to hunt some one year, and he had to take a rifle of a certain calibre and a handgun of a certain calibre. Can't recall what the limitations were, but he carried a semi auto Remington .30-06 and a Ruger Redhawk (the SA only .44mag). Reasoning was they charge when messed with and if that rifle fails, you need something else. My dad grew up watching "Ole Yeller" as a kid, so he probably had that in mind when hunting them, this was his first hunt. They take the damage they can do seriously in Arkansas at least.
Personally, were I to hog hunt, I'd probably use my .50Beowulf, I've heard from lots of other hog hunters that it was THE rifle for dropping big hogs fast. The 300+ gr. bullets seem to work best, the FTX, the XTP, Speer GD, but don't discount the 334gr. plated Rainier --it was specially designed for this rifle and has a much thicker plating, but the inside is pretty soft and while it doesn't mushroom, it does flatten into a half-doller size slug. Super accurate to 100m, max range for an accurate shot is 200m (it falls like a brick after that). For the handgun, I suppose I'd just carry a 10mm auto, probably a G20 or 1006 with very heavy loads. Something that won't jam and can put lots of heavy rounds into a charging pig fast.
I guess if you aren't required to carry the pistol and don't want to, that Beowulf would be great, but only if you are hunting big pigs. It'll blow the smaller ones up I'd suspect.
Before saying the Beowulf is overkill, consider its ballistics first. It is basically a semi auto rifle version of the .500S&W magnum with a "regular" barrel length.
Me too, in fact I used to hunt hogs solely for the purpose of “avenging “ Old Yeller and feel as if I got him at least EVEN! That movie still makes me cry.
Later… I started hunting them for the damage they do... for the sake of other wildlife they compete with (and displace)... and because I generally hate them.
Any of the Big Bore variants will put a "hurtin" on them. The BEO, the SOCOM, the Bushy....all do a good job.
No worry about blowing up the smaller pigs, the bullets just pass through easier... that's all. Good chance of scoring a "two-fer" though...when pigs are lined up or tightly bunched, had that happen several times.
Yes, that is essentially correct (with some loads), more like a medium-hot 45/70 with others. Ballistically, the BEO and 458 SOCOM are very close togther. Both are hammers...but mean't for relatively short range work.
I just got back home a couple of hours ago from a week long deer hunting trip to the south Texas brush country and this past Saturday and Sunday I managed to kill five hogs using my Remington 700 LVSF in .308 and each and everyone of them dropped at the shot.
The ammo I used was Federal Blue box in 150 grains.
Two of them were quite large,easily in the 275-300 pound range.
Broke my pulling rope hooked up to the vehicle twice as we were hauling the nasty things to the camp dump.
I killed another hog a few weekends ago using my Marlin 336 30-30 and used Remington Core Lokt 170 grain ammo.
I have probably killed more hogs with my 243 or 6mm than all my other calibers.
My Savage .308 got the job done. This hog weighed approx 125 lbs.
I would guess him closer to 160 T.R., nice hog...good job!
I got 2 with a 270 Win. with 130 gr. Speers (45 lbs & 350 lbs) and one with an original Trapdoor shooting 300 gr HP reloads (250 lbs). The 45-70 reloads were used at 85 yds. and got no pass through. No pass through with the 270 Win. at 100 yds on the big hog.
mostly .270 but my favorite hog caliber is .22 magnum
High country 4 runner bow set at 78lbs, .22mag, .223, .45acp, .357mag, .357max, 12 gauge slug (1oz), 000 Buck again 12ga, and a Buck Hooligan.
Quite an assortment... Knife... Arrow... Various sizes in firearms... I think that the only things that no one has mentioned yet are:
Hand held spear
If you can use a knife, then a hand held spear would even be easier...
A garrote might be a challenge though with any hog with cutters of any size... That's a bit too up close and personal to the business end of a hog for me... I've gotten too old to do that sort of thing... In my younger and dumber days though, I might have attempted it... I did my share of really stupid things back then, but luckily Darwin was asleep on the job...
My lowly Fazakerley Lee Enfield No 4 rebuilt in 1949. Headshot at 12 yds with Prvi Partizan 180 gr SP.
Hit on base of skull while hog is lying asleep.
S&W Model 29 .44mag 6" barrel
PUMA 92 .357MAG 20" BARREL
260 lb wild boar. Meat was tough but nothing was wasted. Sako M 39 did its job well.
3030, lost count
303 brit 3
22 rimfire 10 (piglets only)
Basically I shoot them with whatevers at hand when the pests turn up. The 3030 would be my preferred rifle though.
Oh I forgot, stuck quite a few too.
I've killed a few hogs... Maybe around 400. I've killed them in traps with 22 mag pistols. Shot them with various broadheads. 223 40 grain vmax bullets, 30-30 150 grain, 7mm 160 noslers, 12 gauge buckshot,...that's about it I think.
Let's see....., .233, 5.56, 30-30, .308, 12 gauge slug, .45 ACP, 9mm, .357 Magnum and even .22.
Size? Any where from 100 lbs up to 300 but most are in the 100-200 range.
I loaded up some 7 Mags with Nosler 160 Accubonds (3000fps) for a good friend recently. He came by the house on the way home from hunting pigs the other evening with 2 in the back of the truck. One was about 150#, the other about 90#. He said they were standing about 6-8 feet apart, one behind the other, 60 yards away. The big one got tagged behind the ear, and the smaller one took an in-out shoulder shot - from the same bullet. I wish he could have told me it was 100 yards or better, but that's still outstanding bullet performance.
12ga. with #4
My first pig I ever killed was a little under 200# and it was with a 10/22. I've killed hogs with everything from 22LR to 300 win mag. My favorite was a 6mm I used for a number of years. I have only harvested a handful of pigs with a pistol, mostly 9mm, 45acp, and once with 357. Probably taken over 100 pigs for myself and friends, from the little tender guys, to the big burly ones that make great sausage.
What's to be taken here is that it's shot placement more than what you shoot them with. They aren't exactly difficult to get close to and they aren't the most observant animals.
I knew a woman at one time who said that exact same then about men...
Originally Posted by Gdbyrd :
Perhaps true where you live...definitely not the case where I live.
Depends on how much hunting pressure they've been exposed to.
I suppose that's true. The main point I was trying to emphasize is that they are not built like an M1 abrams and they definitely aren't bloodhounds.
I'm not overrun with them in my area like they're said to be up in East Texas, but I do run into them at least a few times a season...and anyone that sees them here shoots them. I'd call that about average for most folk.
I think a bigger effect here is your hunting style. Here we hunt in blinds/tripods and have feeders. We don't walk and hunt, so there is no disturbing the brush. You want to shoot a pig with a blowgun, you setup a popup blind 5 yards from the feeder and at 5 o'clock they'll be there(if you have them in the area anyway).
i hunted and killed hogs here in no.cal. coastal mountains since i was a child hogs are a blight on the land not native to the area they've crossed with russian boar and domestic pig to come up with a ferral hog/pig a breed that seems to square exponentially yearly,and tears up the landscape like roto-tillers i've used guns,629 s&w8",.357 timberwolf pump,10mm glock,6mm rem.with a mauser action,.22mag.30-30 win.lever,m1 .30 cal carbine [bought at government auction early '60s still in cosmoline]6' ironwood spear with half of a 48"planer blade,12"honed to a spear point,12"tang pinned and wire wrapped to the shaft very effective.a modern type tomahawk a friend carried in the R.o.V.N. in the '60s worked quite well a bowie knife with a 10"or"12 blade,a H&K vp70 in 9mm.the spear and knife work,as was some but not all the pistol work was done using hounds and kill-dogs,and i've forgotten a bunch.no garrote,or drug over-doses though
sausage dude !you will never have tough sausage.
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