Tory and Michael T
when you say OP, do you mean original poster? If you do, you're mixing me and another poster up.
BTW, I am fully aware of the rules for safety classes in Massachusetts, thank you for being so precise.
Tory, you seem like someone who would do a good job suing the police for a permit,...are you my lawyer by any chance???
I agree that individual Chiefs of Police issuing permits is not the best way to go, especially if you live in a restrictive town. If you live in a town with a sensible chief, it's a world of difference, and I have seen both kinds.
When I said a MUST ISSUE license like a drivers license, I meant that you couldn't be denied if you met the criterea, no violent felonies, not on probation, not an addict and a few others. Otherwise, until proven not worthy of the permit, you should get it.
By the way, when Massachusetts instituted the law that said you needed a hunter safety course for a hunting license, the previous conditions were a course approved by the NRA, or a signed document for a reputable person who would affirm your ability to handle firearms. Someone like your Scout Leader or your Father.
Once you had your first license, you never needed to have that hunter safety course.
Same thing with a pistol permit. If you had one before the law that said you had to have training, you were grandfathered in with a permit. I'm guessing you'd have to be older than 50 to be one of these people, but they are out there. Not that it matters, it's just a point of interest.
MICHAEL T, BTW, I have in my possession a Brown Bess that a great great uncle picked up off the ground at the battle of lexington and concord that you speak of. Uncle Henry would be ashamed of me if he didn't think I was just as willing to fight for my rights as he was. My Greatgrandfater, and his Father, both lived beyond 100 years old, so when I heard stories about "how it was", they were pretty personal to me. My Yankee stock goes back a long way. I met my Greatgrandfather when I was 9 and knew him until I was 14. He passed at 106 years of age. The Kimballs and the Halls passed on their love of freedom and country to hundreds of their offspring, maybe thousands.
when you say OP, do you mean original poster? If you do, you're mixing me and another poster up.
BTW, I am fully aware of the rules for safety classes in Massachusetts, thank you for being so precise.
Tory, you seem like someone who would do a good job suing the police for a permit,...are you my lawyer by any chance???
I agree that individual Chiefs of Police issuing permits is not the best way to go, especially if you live in a restrictive town. If you live in a town with a sensible chief, it's a world of difference, and I have seen both kinds.
When I said a MUST ISSUE license like a drivers license, I meant that you couldn't be denied if you met the criterea, no violent felonies, not on probation, not an addict and a few others. Otherwise, until proven not worthy of the permit, you should get it.
By the way, when Massachusetts instituted the law that said you needed a hunter safety course for a hunting license, the previous conditions were a course approved by the NRA, or a signed document for a reputable person who would affirm your ability to handle firearms. Someone like your Scout Leader or your Father.
Once you had your first license, you never needed to have that hunter safety course.
Same thing with a pistol permit. If you had one before the law that said you had to have training, you were grandfathered in with a permit. I'm guessing you'd have to be older than 50 to be one of these people, but they are out there. Not that it matters, it's just a point of interest.
MICHAEL T, BTW, I have in my possession a Brown Bess that a great great uncle picked up off the ground at the battle of lexington and concord that you speak of. Uncle Henry would be ashamed of me if he didn't think I was just as willing to fight for my rights as he was. My Greatgrandfater, and his Father, both lived beyond 100 years old, so when I heard stories about "how it was", they were pretty personal to me. My Yankee stock goes back a long way. I met my Greatgrandfather when I was 9 and knew him until I was 14. He passed at 106 years of age. The Kimballs and the Halls passed on their love of freedom and country to hundreds of their offspring, maybe thousands.