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Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics and Training' started by old lady new shooter, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. bearcreek

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    Please quote a single post from this thread that made that statement.
     
  2. 9mmepiphany

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    So you've taken reasoning that you know is flawed and used it to support your point. :oops:

    My point is that of the officers involved in fatal shootings, 10% are blue-on-blue. So "flaging " yourself as a "good guy" which will likely call attention to yourself, improves you chances of being shot from 100% to 90%
     
  3. scaatylobo

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    As a retired LEO,all that I can add = and I promise that is THE END is.

    Y'all do as you please and please do continue to think as you do.

    My 1* is all I have and I know how to handle that one.

    I based my comments and truths on knowledge and fact.

    AND on asking and checking with the many LEO's that I still know.

    Adios.
     
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    It sounds like two choices, bad and worse. While I'd like to save others, my first obligation is to my sons, who would be in real trouble if something happened to me, especially my youngest. I'd take that oportunity to leave with the understanding that not taking the shot and potentially saving people would haunt me.
     
  7. bearcreek

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    There are always choices of course. Consider though that in an instance like that, the choices very well may not be run or shoot. The choices may be shoot and get shot or just get shot in the back. Given the scenario at hand, where you have a clear shot at the killer, which also means he very well might have or can quickly attain a clear shot at you, it's entirely possible that you get shot as you run away. Remember, we're not talking about a situation where you've heard shots, or been told there's a killer, or seen him/her in passing at a distance or something. You're actually close enough to have a clear shot at them. Also, consider that most mass killers stop killing others almost immediately when they meet effective resistance.
     
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    Understood. This is one of those what if scenarios that could play out any number of ways, and the only definative thing I can tell you is that I’d put my son’s welfare first.
     
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  10. old lady new shooter

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    Personally in the scenario described in the first link I would call 911.

    The only type of scenario I can think of where the participants are not known to me where I would try to act would be something like a case where G-d forbid someone is stomping on a small child, or a uniformed police officer is losing a fight with a BG and ASKS for help like in that case last year.
     
  11. Mikhail Weiss

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    Something very similar to old lady new shooter's scenario happened in my neck o' the woods recently. A young man entered a restaurant and started shooting people. Two local men grabbed their guns and shot the perpetrator dead, at which point he became incapable of continuing his assault.
     
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