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What is going on with gun shows?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by PT1911, Oct 17, 2010.

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  1. PT1911

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    So, this weekend there was a gun show in Anniston, Alabama. There is one here twice a year and the trend recently is pretty terrible...with each show the selection drops, the prices go up, and the crowds get smaller and smaller.... it is a disturbing trend... It doesnt help much that the local paper refuses to print an ad time and time again.

    Even with the all of the negatives, I did manage to come away with some spoils...

    Earlier this year I acquired a Rockchucker Loading setup from a friend and have been intending to get started in reloading handgun and some select rifle ammo... Well, imagine my surprise when I am informed of a some "used" dies for sale..

    Well, I mosey on over to the table and surprise surprise, I get some complete RCBS die sets in 257 roberts, 38 scl (which I will also use for .357 mag,) and 45Colt as well as a set of lyman 45 ACP dies... all for a total of 60 bucks... Not a STELLAR deal I know, but the cheapest I have seen.... I very nearly almost got 270, 30-06, 308, and 6.5x55 dies as well, but talked myself out of it (will probably kick myself for that later....)Then, on the way back to my friend's tables, I spy from the corner of my eye an awfully familiar and characteristic mag... and after some deliberation with the seller who "wasnt positive" as to what it was, I get a factory mag for my Star PD for 20 bucks.... Not bad seeing as the cheapest I can find is from Numrich and runs 40 bucks before shipping...

    SO, all in all, not a bad 80 bucks spent at a pretty sad show.:D and :(
     
  2. bushmaster1313

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    Perhaps the internet is killing gun shows the same way it killed the newspapers

    Better selection at lower prices
     
  3. DenaliPark

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    It's the economy, nobody has any money, those that do are terrified that they soon won't, not to mention that a hell of a lot of people orgied on guns in the immediate aftermath of Obama....Some manufactures that were living large on AR sales have even gone belly-up....
     
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    sounds like a good day to me!
     
  5. Old krow

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    I went to one on the coast this weekend. I wasn't impressed at all. Most everything was higher than I pay normally at local mom and pop shops.

    I know a couple of stores that still have an overstock because they refuse to come down on their prices.

    I agree, although I think that it's partially the economy too.

    Bottom line, I don't always spend money there just because they're so high. I didn't find any deals like the OP did.
     
  6. HOOfan_1

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    Went to my first gun show in Richmond VA Saturday before I went to the embarrassment on grass that was a UVA football game. It was wall to wall people (I don't like crowds) The prices on new guns were no better than our LGS, of course the vendors said they were the lowest prices around. I can't see buying a new gun at a gun show, even at a 10% discount, I would rather buy from my LGS who I know will right any problems. A gun show vendor is the definition of fly by night. Used/rare guns is what the gun show market is for.

    I also laughed that some people brought coins, jewelery and craft goods to a gun show. I commented to my dad that the jewelery must be for husbands to coax their wives into letting them buy a gun. I saw a $1000 bill selling for $2000 :rolleyes:

    Anyway, the only deal we found, and really the only thing we expected to buy anyway was 500 .45ACP 230grain round nose hard cast bullets for $48. The LGS is selling them for $66.
     
  7. gbw

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    Long ago they were places where enthusiasts brought interesting things, often just to show, to meet and talk, and to get to know other enthusiasts. Perhaps to buy or sell as well, but that was never their sole purpose. Used to see a lot of really interesting, unusual items, and decent deals were not rare. They were fun.

    It seems to me in the last 10 years or so they've degenerated into overpriced gun-based flea markets, places where low-grade quick-buck scam artists gather to search for new suckers to fleece. I've about given up on them. Sad.
     
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    gbw is right. I don't even bother anymore.
     
  9. PT1911

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    I dont disagree with any of you...


    At least I was lucky enough to walk away with some much needed dies... i am already regretting not getting the other dies that I will need SOME DAY...

    also a bit sad how excited I got about something as simple as a mag!!! Oh well...
     
  10. Tinpig

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    Bad gun show in Anniston, Ala? If it was a Saturday, I guess I'd have bailed out and headed over to the CMP South Store.
    :)

    Tinpig
     
  11. bhp9mm

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    Gun shows suck now days noting but junk and beef jerky.
     
  12. Blackrock

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    I was going to go to gun show in Tucson until I figered out that I would have to pay $38 just to get in the door. $10 for parking and 2x$14 admission. Said to heck with it.
     
  13. InkEd

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    I think as times change, people attend events for different reasons than they did in the past.

    Take a State/County Fair for example. People used to attend them to show off the products of their farms. (Biggest pumpkin, best apple pie, fattest hog, etc.) As family farming dwindled they started to incorporate boardwalk attractions such as (rigged) games of (absolutely no) chance and some rides. When people tired of the games and rides they started putting on concerts and stage performances. Nowadays, with amusement parks and arena venues the County/State Fairs are losing some attendance.

    Gun shows as previously mentioned, used to be a place for collectors socialize, veterans reminsce and hunters to brag among friends. When the younger crowds had heard all the stories and become interested in firearms, they started buying used stuff for cheap. Gun shows became the place to go and find a good deal because if 3 guys have the same thing and want to sell it, somebody will make a deal to move it. As the WWII surplus guns dried up, the Eastern Block stuff filled the niche. Good used weapons and bargain basement prices. The AWB and other anti-gun laws kept the shows going strong because
    you simply could not get that kind of stuff new or for a decent price. When the AWB expired and with the rise of Internet dealers, the prices of the aforementioned wares have dropped considerably and even (some) local shops will sell things at a very competitive price. All of those things have led to the decline in gun show attendance. Accordingly, the sellers go where there is a crowd of buyers. Auction sites (like gunbroker) have become the new 24/7/365 pseudo-gunshow replacement.

    The only thing that has managed to endure ALL of the changes, revamps, incarnations (or whatever you want to to call it) of events like BOTH county/state fairs AND gunshows IS unhealthy and overpriced food!

    Can you imagine a Fair without funnel cake or Gunshow without......well you already know..... ;)

    -InkEd
     
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    retail of all sorts are REALLY down
     
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    Too much junk, not enough quality.

    Last one I attended (over 2 years ago) was full of velvet paintings, cheap homemade "jewelry", and a lot of crappy beat up firearms at ridiculous prices. And the crowd was unbelievable, as was the entrance fee.

    I'm done. :rolleyes:
     
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    It's been a long time since gun shows were worthwhile for actually buying stuff at good prices. For the last few years I have gone only once in a while to kill a few hours on a Saturday afternoon.
     
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    I walked into the last gun show with $850 BURNING in my pocket, and I walked out empty handed. :(
     
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    Gun shows have been on the decline for years for varying reasons. One of which, at least the one I harp on the most, is that as a whole those sellers are trying to get rich off every sale. With the internet, folks are more than a little leery to pay too much for anything. I'm sorry, but a "new" gun that spends a year or two on the gun show circuit simply isn't "new" anymore. I go to every gun show I can but can't remember the last time I actually bought a gun at one. Just too much greed.
     
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    I don't know if it's like this where you live, but around here a gunshow used to be a pretty big deal. They didn't come around that often and when they did, it was usually put on by the Shriners. Admission was $2 and there were a ton of vendors and some great deals. I never left without buying something.
    Now there's one about every month and a half, put on by professionals that do it for a living. Admission is $7.
    I've been meaning to go to the last couple but when I get up on Saturday morning and think about when was the last time I saw a deal at a gunshow, I pour another cup of coffee and read the paper.
    I haven't been in probably 2 or 3 years.
     
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    $7 admission? That is cheap...... :barf:
     
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    :) Gun shows really suck in my neck of the woods to. It's the same old thing. Junk and more junk. Guns is my hobby and the gun shows were a big part of it but not any more. Don
     
  22. Mike OTDP

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    Around my neck of the urban jungle, the gun shows are OK...if you are trying to buy an AR, AK, Glock, or 1911.

    if you are looking for anything even mildly exotic, it's spotty. If you're in my position, looking for high-end target pistols and antiques, forget it.

    I buy accessories and a little ammo.
     
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    I agree the net is killing shows dealers either do not want to or cannot compete with internet gun sales like Bud's, Classic, Samco, and Gun broker.
     
  24. MrIzhevsk

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    the one thing I like about the gun shows is the fact that I can get parts that I can't find locally such as witness magazines for my Jericho. I actually bought my Jericho .45 at a gun show and I'm glad I did then, I see them for a lot more now.

    I am a bit wary of ordering things online but I agree, every time I go it just seems the price of everything goes up. That or I have less and less money :uhoh:
     
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    All the good used guns have been bought. The ones that aren't marked up into the stupid range anyway.

    Forty or 50 years ago most people owned a gun or three and would have to sell or trade one to get a new one. Now we just buy. Buy, buy, buy.

    John
     
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