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What is it about Soviet Rifles...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by InkEd, Mar 24, 2013.

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  1. InkEd

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    What is it about Soviet rifles... that I like so gosh darn much?:evil:

    They just have this real mystique to them and even seem a little taboo because of the Cold War.

    We were taught to fear the Russians like strangers with candy. Anyone under the age of 35 imagined Russians were either 60 year old farm women with handkerchiefs on their head that spent the day raking away the dirt in front of a grass-roofed mud-wall farm house or young soul-less men that marched lock-kneed in fur hats with an AK behind tanks in Red Square! They did this EVERYDAY without exception from morning until night. A few also worked in gloomy factories that made gigantic bombs with CCCP painted on them while the sound of hitting an anvil echoed on a loop. Also, they were all evil and hated freedom. Don't even talk about it or you might catch communism amd die. That was Russia in our imaginations. :D

    The AK platform has a real underdog appeal.
    It's a basic design that was designed by a guy without any real engineering background but it continues to compete (and even beat) many different more advanced designs. Like everything else designed by them it has a very crude look to it and you even wonder if it will work without falling apart. They launched the first satellite into space...and it was made out of old TV antennas and two colendars stuck together. The space race was between NASA with sleek billion dollar rockets against ol' man Alovski's grain silo with some missiles welded to the side. Lastly, their whole army is armed with a rifle made after-hours in a machine shop. :uhoh: However, they ALL worked and did the job.

    It's just interesting to me... and it's not just the AK either.

    Take a look at the Mosin. And it's wonderful ergonomics. The average Russian man is not especially tall (about 5' 8") ... so let's make the rifle 4' long and add a foot long bayonet! That way when you place the buttstock on the ground the tip of the bayonet will be right at eyeball level so that when in camp you can see them easily and not accidentally impale your face while going back to your tent following your dinner of vodka and propaganda poster soup. 100 years later, people brag about the winning a used one on Gunbroker for 10x the original production cost! Needless to say, they still shoots as accurate as half the new rifles on the market. Go figure.



    Does anyone else have a fondness for any of those "whacky" Russian rifles?
     
  2. CLP

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    meh...
     
  3. meanmrmustard

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    I have a soft spot for Russian guns, but mainly those that were captured by the Finnish.:D
     
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  4. InkEd

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    LOL at captured by the Finnish!
     
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    They're just too damned accurate to ignore.
     
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    Finnlander Mosin Nagants are the greatest. I am a big fan of them....chris3
     
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    Its about the legacy of the Cold War and rise of communism and socialism.

    If you are into Britsh Imperialism that lasted a good 400 years and occupied 1/3 of the world landmass, then you d be awed by the British rifles such as the Lee Enfield s.
     
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    akaholic
     
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    Price. If Springfield 1903s were selling for $99 like the Mosin Nagants; and the M1 Garands were selling for $249 like the SKSs; and ARs were selling for $499 like AKs, then FAR fewer people would touch the Mosins, SKSs, or AKs. (Pre-panic prices, of course...) That's it. LOL
     
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    It's only because you know Migs

    were made of the same steel, but you can't get a Mig that you like their rifles so much, comrade.:p
     
  11. Sam1911

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    Kind of like drinking PBR, I think. Got sort of an underground cachet to them. First time someone tries them they are astonished to find that they're both cheap and effective.

    You're probably an ironic hipster.





    :neener:
     
  12. mf-dif

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    There cheap (where), reliable, and made from steel and wood. The calibers the guns are chambered for are some good ones too.

    7.62x54R big boom
    7.62x39 good punch
    7.62x25 super fast pistol round
     
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    And it just got even more fun for me now that I figured out a good way to do the blood red shellac. Chips just like the real thing!
     
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    Don't leave out the 9x18.
     
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    Don't leave out the 5.45. :D
     
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    Well, I have a Chinese Type 53 to cover the action family in the collection.

    But I can find Mauser types just as cheap and I like the look and feel of them better. A nice Oberndorf made M1909 or Brno made VZ-24 contract rifle? I'll take one of them any day as my preference.

    It's nice that there are so many options and that we can both find rifles that we can equally enjoy the use of in the field and on the range.
     
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    Haha, I like your description. I kind of felt the same way only as kids we were always talking about whether we'd whip the soviets in a war and who had the better small arms and fighter jets.

    They work every time you squeeze the trigger. I think therein lies the beauty. Also, if you hate cleaning guns like me I much prefer it over AR stuff. They are accurate enough. I liked Sam's PBR analogy, but maybe it's cause I like PBR, lol.

    The mags, in my opinion, are the key to the whole operation. Nuclear war-tough. I still like the FAL better for it's superior sights, ergonomics, and harder hitting round but my budget definitely prefers the AK. I can afford to shoot that thing frequently. Neither of them need much cleaning. As for the mosin nagants, I hate them. Crude pieces of crap and would take an M1917 over them any day of the week and twice on sunday. But they do work and are cheap!!!
     
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    Do love the SKS. Not a brilliant design in many ways, but a hoot to shoot!
     
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    yup! M39 FTW!
    Going for around $400 online...
     
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    I also love the commie stuff.
    I have a unconverted saiga 7.62. Glad I didn't convert as I live in commie NY.
    Now I want a mosin . One reason is there is actually ammo for it at gander!
     
  22. InkEd

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    Definitely not a hipster and I am a little offended by that comment. (You couldn't just call me a "little less despised" like a kitten murderer or serial arsonist.) LOL

    No cheesy facial hair, I hate sweaters and v-necks, My pants fit properly, there's not single piece of IKEA furniture in my house and the only "vintage" clothes I own is a hat that belonged to my Grandpa. Nor do I drive a hybrid car with liberal cause bumper sticker.

    Lastly, the only "cheap" beer I drink is Miller High Life.... because I have CLASS! (It's the "Champagne of Beers" after all.) LOL!

    I'm a heavily tattooed metal guy with a shaved head from the south (so I also have ages redneck tendencies.) I could probably have passed for roadie for Pantera if that helps you get a mental picture.
     
  23. InkEd

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    How funny is it they put a scope on the shovel AK to shoot groups.
     
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    LMAO!!!

    Correction: MILLER is the Champagne of Beers,
    Miller Lite tastes great and is less filling! LOL:D
     
  25. InkEd

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    fireside44:
    Comrade! The reason you don't like the Mosin is because you are spoiled and weak from capitalism! You probably prefer your rifle stocks and toilet paper to be free of splinters. REAL men have hands and rear-ends that are HARD LIKE IRON from many hours toiling away state-owned factories and toilet facilities. LOL!
     
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