What is the closest powder to Unique?

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  1. PWGUNNY

    PWGUNNY Member

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    I like Unique for my 9mm but it's not usually in stock. What powder is the closest substitute?
     
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    IMR-7625, also not available !!
     
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    Green Dot. It's just slightly faster but I can't find it either. kwg
     
  4. Schwing

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    wideners.com has 1lb bottles with a limit of 10 right now for 18.95 per pound. If you act quick you should be able to get some. As of the time I write this, they also have bullseye.
     
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    Hodgdon HP-38/Winchester 231 is slightly faster burning, and it meters nicely. I've used it a lot for 9mm, .38 Special and .45 ACP loads.
     
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    Hp-38,231,universal, and clays are all fairly close to unique.
     
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    In my testing in .44 Special, 45 ACP and 45 Colt, Alliant 20/28 is all but a duplicate of Unique. Read about it here.

    35W
     
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    I'D look for Herco. It's pretty much the younger slower-burning brother to Unique.
     
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    Unique alternatives,
    Universal
    AA#5
    VV-n340
    HS-6
    I have tried these instead of Unique, and each does very well in certain applications, more so than Unique. But none will do everything as well as Unique.
     
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    Universal (Hodgdon's Clays Universal) is the substitute for Unique. Burn rates are the same. I thought this was common knowledge, guess I was wrong.
    HOWEVER! You cannot simply use Universal in the same amount as Unique, i.e. you can't use 5.0 grains of Universal for recipe using 5.0 grains of Unique. While they have the same burn rate, they are of different configurations.
    I switched from Unique to Universal because Unique is filthy. While the new Unique is somewhat cleaner, it still turns my guns black after an extended range session.
     
  11. Uniquedot

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    Yes universal is the closest thing available to unique. That's what it was formulated to compete with. However it ain't unique! And it doesn't burn any cleaner than new unique, but it does meter better. I went back to good old American made unique after only a lb of universal.
     
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    Thanks for the tip....My 10 is ordered.
     
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    I went to bed too early. Dang it. :)

    "Universal" (Universal Clays) is close, but plain old "Clays" is much faster.
     
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    They still have Unique. ...I know of 20 lbs ordered in the past 20 minutes.
     
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    I think this, and the fact that they still have Bullseye, is the most hopeful thing I have seen in 2 years that the shortage might be finally coming to an end.
     
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    I use Promo or Red Dot for 9mm ,45 lc and 45 acp.
     
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    Before i use my last 5lbs. i stock up. But if i were to run out of Unique, Bullseye is my next go to powder for the semi auto pistol rounds.
     
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    WHAT IS THE CLOSEST POWDER TO UNIQUE?

    BE-86 But be careful, BE-86 actually burns clean, meters great, and is as or more accurate than Unique.
     
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    WSF is what I used to replace Unique with. Being a ball powder is meter 1000% better.
     
  21. PWGUNNY

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    Thanks for all the responses. I will add these to my list. I've only used 3 different powders for 9mm; Unique, Red Dot, and HP38. I liked the slower burning Unique over the other 2.

    I'll check out Wideners.
     
  22. Mad Chemist

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    Don't forget Power Pistol. I'ts a great powder for 9x19.
     
  23. ColtPythonElite

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    Power Pistol is great in many handguns. I used a lot with jacketed bullets. ...I have seen any for sale in a long time, though.
     
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    Universal was developed to mimic Unique but it's cleaner and meters better.

    I can't believe how many powders are being listed that are nowhere near Unique just because the poster likes the powder in the 9mm.
     
  25. Mad Chemist

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    True.

    And PP is very close to unique in both burn rate and load density ;)
     
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