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What is the fine and jail sentence for stealing a firearm from a Gun Shop?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by The Rifleman, Jan 22, 2007.

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  1. The Rifleman

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    Just want to see how many of you know what the fine and jail time is for stealing a firearm from a Gun Shop.
     
  2. PILMAN

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    I would think it'd be considered the same as stealing a firearm from a house, probably a serious felony and anywhere from 10 years in prison or more.

    Why? Were you planning something?
     
  3. jcs271

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    EVERY state will be different. How you steal it will dictate whether they charge you with grand theft, burglary, embezzelment, robbery etc. Is it first offense, "3rd strike". Are there state enhancements specifically for firearm theft.

    The possibilities go on and on and on.............................
     
  4. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    It would depend on the jurisdiction in which it which the case tried. Is it being tried in federal court and subject to mandatory sentencing guidelines? Even then, it would depend whether it was burglary, robbery, aggravated or not, etc.

    If you are going to ask silly questions to test our knowledge, at least give enough information for us to play along at home.
     
  5. Zundfolge

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    Value of the gun is also going to be a factor.

    Stealing a $150 Jennings isn't as serious as steeling a $1200 1911
     
  6. CDignition

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    Stealing one from a dealer will bring more heat that stealing one from a home
     
  7. Mannlicher

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    what a question. wow.
     
  8. Zundfolge

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    Actually, now that I think about it. If you steal from a gun shop it may be considered a federal crime because the gun shop is a Federally Licensed business (at the very least the boys from F-Troop will be part of the team investigating the theft).
     
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    Stealing one from an FFL gets 10 years and a $50,000 fine, IIRC.
     
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    Were you reading the comics? LOL
     
  11. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Well, assuming it becomes a federal case, it would be a violation of 922(u) (added in the Brady Bill) which is subject to 10 years, under title 18, or both.

    It's from the Brady Bill, which original asked for a fine of not more than $10K.

    But, not every case goes to federal court. There's a chance any given case would stay local.

    I'm still not sure what the point of this was, just to find out if anyone had actually read section 922?
     
  12. MikeK

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    This doesn't answer the question, but is related, Passing a bad check for a gun purchase is considered theft of the gun - in Md anyway.
     
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    Why is "Gun Shop" capitalized???
     
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    My friendly local shop got robbed last year (owner out sick, daughter handling the store - she was armed but didn't have time when five teens rushed her) - all juveniles, none of them got more than a year in juvie even though they refused to give up the location of the guns they stole and who they sold them to.
     
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    The penalty here is that you probably get shot during the theft. :)
     
  16. Mainsail

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    A couple years ago when they caught the sniper who was terrorizing the east coast (Virginia wasn’t it?), they discovered he got his gun from Bull’s Eye gun shop in Tacoma (Washington). I was talking to the owner of another gun shop and he commented that Bulls Eye would probably say the gun was stolen.

    The next day they did exactly that. How do you steal a rifle from a gun store?
     
  17. Diesel man

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    If you stole a gun from a gun shop the gun dealer will chase you even after miles of running and once he gets close to you he will throw uranium dust in your eyes and spill hydrocloric acid on your hands.And splash a cup of hot coffee in your face.Thats worse than any jail sentence or fine.

    Or If your speeding away in a car the gun dealer will chase you in his truck or old cadillac and follow you even after you drive for hours and reach another state he will follow you until you run out of gas and once your car stops the gun dealer will come out of his car with a baseball bat and break windows in your car and break and dent most of the car.Then he will pull you out of the driver side window by your hair or ear if your bald to the road pavement.
    After that he removes his leather glove and pulls out a long fingernail and scratches your face with the letters "denied" on your fore head.And takes back his gun and leaves and heads back to the gun shop leaving you in the woods alone.
    Ask silly questions expect silly answers:)
     
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    The FFL I do business with had a break-in about a dozen years ago by two local youngsters. They got probation and a judgment for restitution. Despite letters to the court he's never seen a dime. Nobody in the local CJ system has any interest in enforcing the judgment.

    Last year, same FFL guy was broken into and several semi-auto pistols were stolen. They had a good deputy working the case and found the perp, a young lady who was small enough to crawl through a small window, and her 2 male accomplices within a week. All were druggies. The handgun serial numbers had been ground off, the guns sold but recovered. He says he may get the guns back, but after a trial and "after BATFE figures out to pencil engrave some new serial numbers on them so can become saleable." (His words. He's a pragmatic cynic.)
     
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    People on THR like to capitalize all sorts of weird things. It makes them feel special, like they're honoring whatever they're capitalizing, I guess. You don't see it much on other boards, kind of a strange in board phenomenon.
     
  21. TallPine

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    Because stealing from a Gun Shop is a Capital Crime ;)
     
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    TallPine,

    Arrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh. :barf:
     
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    In the PDRK, the value is irrelevant. Theft of a firearm is grand theft, a felony. It gets worse if it is coupled with burgalry or robbery.

    Pilgrim
     
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    Prolly the same way as folks that steal machine guns from cop cars. Yes, it has happened locally. I also, a long time ago in a life far far away, knew a fellow that swiped the lights from atop the cop car...:rolleyes:
     
  25. The Rifleman

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    Give that man a cigar.

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    Stealing one from an FFL gets 10 years and a $50,000 fine, IIRC.

    That's what it is.. A Federal Offense.. Not like taking one out of someones home. Scott Grice told me that one day while I was shopping in his store. One of his customers asked him if the reason why he wore a pistol was because he was worried about someone stealing a gun out of his store.

    All the rifles are chained to the display case - with a lock that you could not take out of the trigger mech without a key.

    He wears the gun because there is over 10,000,000 worth of inventory in his store and they might sell $20,000 of guns in one day. There is probably more money in his safe at the end of one day than there is in Clearfield Bank and Trust..
     
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