What is the least reliable pistol line?
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natedog
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I smell smoke...flame war coming.
Warren
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True...they're not Glocks that's for sure. 
stans
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I can't say that the 1911 is the least reliable pistol and I don't think the U.S. armed forces would either. I don't think Glocks are inherently unreliable. In fact, aside from the cheap pocket pistols like the Jennings and Raven (some of those are actually reliable, at least for a while), I cannot think of any that are known to be primarily unreliable pistols.
Wolfy
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I vote for the Beretta M9 and my second vote goes to the M16
phantom309
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Of modern designs, probably the Walther p22.
Wildalaska
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Glocks are godlike in their infallibility, as are AKs...bonus...anything hit with a round from an AK dies immediatley...
All other guns suck the booboo
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All other guns suck the booboo
WildendofthreadAlaska
It may not be pretty but it works. How about the guy (and wife) at my CCW class that brought TWO pistols for shooting (showing-off). Both were brand new and both were Taurus. Neither pistol survived the 1st magazine (the frame cracked/chipped on one). He and his wife had to borrow the instructor's handgun to qualify
I presently own five 1911's and four of them had work done on them to improve reliablity because they jammed often enough that I didn't feel comfortable enough to carry/use them for self defense purpose. The fifth one will be going back soon as well.
Never had this problem with any of my four (two 92's & two 96's) Beretta's or thirteen out of fourteen of my S&W's.
Never had this problem with any of my four (two 92's & two 96's) Beretta's or thirteen out of fourteen of my S&W's.
nero45acp
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While they are my favorite pistol "line", the 1911's I've owned have by far been the most unreliable auto-loaders I've owned (mostly simple extractor issues). The only 1911's I've owned that have been reliable are Colt's.
My Beretta 92FS Vertec, SIG P225, and Steyr M9 have never failed.
nero
My Beretta 92FS Vertec, SIG P225, and Steyr M9 have never failed.
nero
GigaBuist
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Keltec.
Bravo11
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Kel-Tec?--ouch!
HankB
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Q: Which gun spawned a whole aftermarket of gunsmiths providing "reliability packages?"
A: 1911
Of course, a well-made 1911 can be both reliable and accurate. But SO MANY of the ones being turned out today are neither, at least out of the box. (Thank you, bean counters and unions.)
A: 1911
Of course, a well-made 1911 can be both reliable and accurate. But SO MANY of the ones being turned out today are neither, at least out of the box. (Thank you, bean counters and unions.)
Well considering that Keltec's are getting hard to come by around here and those you find are "pricey" get rid of yours, a buyer should be easy to come by. I waited and got mine 4 months ago for $219, new. To buy another (ACE Sporting Goods PA) they want $250! and they won't come down a penney! Used are going for $225 +/- and they aren't on the shelf long. Maybe the Keltec's going to the NE are better made.
Warren
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Is Nambu still in business?
GigaBuist
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I'm not saying I'd never buy a Keltec -- in fact I own one. It's less than stellar in regards to reliability though. Everybody puts out a lemon and for a while Keltec was putting out a few more than most manufacturer's it seems.
It's the only brand a local shop carries that I would tell a first time buyer to stay away from entirely for reliability reasons. You really don't want their first one to be a lemon. Mine's less than stellar and the shop owner said that the guy who bought one before me had failure to feed problems. Sent it back to the factory twice (might be limp wristing it I suppose) -- still did it.
They're reasonable, but the incident rate of hearing this is higher than any other brand out there. There designs are also smaller, lighter, and more potent than anything else out there. They're pushing the limits and they know it. Hence, a few lemons sneak out.
I like 'em, but NIB they stand a better chance of not working than Glock, Sig, Springers, Kimbers, Colts, S&W's, Rugers, H&K, Beretta, etc, etc.
It's the only brand a local shop carries that I would tell a first time buyer to stay away from entirely for reliability reasons. You really don't want their first one to be a lemon. Mine's less than stellar and the shop owner said that the guy who bought one before me had failure to feed problems. Sent it back to the factory twice (might be limp wristing it I suppose) -- still did it.
They're reasonable, but the incident rate of hearing this is higher than any other brand out there. There designs are also smaller, lighter, and more potent than anything else out there. They're pushing the limits and they know it. Hence, a few lemons sneak out.
I like 'em, but NIB they stand a better chance of not working than Glock, Sig, Springers, Kimbers, Colts, S&W's, Rugers, H&K, Beretta, etc, etc.
I agree, Kel-Tec! They are priced like real guns but preform more like cheap gansta guns like the Jennings or Bryco. With tax, extra mag and belt clip, they can go for more than $300 sometimes and for that you can get a real gun. Heck, S&W 637s are selling for $299 without tax! The exuse that Kel-Tecs are unreliable because they are inexpensive doesn't hold water, they are plenty expensive.
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