What is the most dead solid reliable pistol (autoloader) design ever?

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GLOCK 21 'Hands down - don't even look back'

GLOCK 21 in .45 acp. I have put thousands of rounds through my GLOCK 21. I cannot remember my FIRST malfunction, misfire, stovepipe, jam of any type.
 
Well all you got to do is look at which pistols have been cloned the most: #1 1911, #2 CZ-75

I don't have any figures, but I would suspect that the Walther 32/380 might be #2.

I don't know what that proves anyway.
 
Wellp, looks liek the winner is GLOCK for those who don't have a "limp wrist" (never been able to limp wrist anything, hard as I try); something else for those who do. Go figure.
 
I had a Beretta96 for a little over a year. Liked the design, fit me well, recoil tame in that heavier frame. hehee... a rhyme. :eek:

BUT, it suffered several jams over the course of around 1500 rounds, and I sold it.

Moved to revolvers (GP100 and SP101) and have not suffered a jam since/yet.

That said, of late I've been eyeballing the Ruger P95's. They have a rep of being the AK of the bottomfeeder world, as well as being accurate. That is very appealing to me.
 
Never, ever had a malfunction with the 220, 226 or the P7M8. (thousands of rounds combined)

Can't say the same for my 1911s (Colt/SA), H&K USP Compact (40) and MK23.
 
Glock wins. I've fired thousands of rounds through my G26, and it hasn't even given the slightest hint of a problem occuring. It's so reliable that it's boring. I waiting for something to mess up so I can fix it. I like fixing things, and the Glock spoils the fun.
 
For me (if size is no object) it'd be my Ruger P90. I have lots of autoloaders in all various calibers and actions most cost a LOT more than this did, but the thing is the "tank" of my collection. Only problem with it is it's huge - only thing bigger I own is a Desert Eagle.3,000+ rounds over 10 years and never a FTF or FTE. Eats everything . . . even cycles shotshells.
 
Difficult for me to say. My inclination is to say that all of the top tier guns are, for all practical purposes, nearly indistinguishable insofar as reliability goes.

I own a Sig 226ST, CZ-75B, Beretta Steel I, and a Sig 228. I am unable to appreciate a difference in reliability. As others have suggested, if it isn't reliable I get rid of it. Same goes for accuracy in my own hands.

Until objective trials are conducted testing random samples of different types of guns under precisely the same conditions I believe that they jury will remain out - unless you wish to accept the results of the US Military Trials 20 years ago. In that case the Beretta 92FS is the most reliable auto pistol.
 
Gotta love the Plastic Fantastic! G19 bought used thousands of rounds, no issues (best of the glocks - well maybe with the G17 as well). 92F a close second, was my favorite 'til I found the Glocks!
 
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pitiful.

i cant believe it took 50 posting for someone to cowby up enough to sugest the 1911. +1 for me vern. John browning got it right almost a century ago. and MILLIONS of soldiers around the globe in hundreds of armies. and hundreds of thousands of uniformed and uc police around the world have proved it.
 
how dare you!

cant believe anyone would have the nads to sugest a 92f. our soldiers in iraq put the damn things in ziplocks bags and so they wont jam. that doesnt sound very reliable to me. check out some of the horible things patrick sweeny does to a 1911 in vol 2 of his complete 1911 book. thats reliable.
 
Just in my own experience, my P90 is about as reliable as I would ever expect a auto gun to be. I won't keep a gun that isn't reliable, but out of all of the guns that I own, that would be the one that I would gamble the most money on in a reliability contest. Thats just based off of my experience.
I was reluctant to say the Ruger P90 as it has not been mentioned very much, but it is the most reliable gun that I have ever owned, period. I have never had a jamb of any sort and I know in a time of need it will go bang and put the round exactly where they are aimed. great pistol. :D
 
75 would be carried by the US military right now if not for that country being communist at the time of the M9 selection. As for a newer even higher-grade 75 you get the P01.

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A few years ago, the Czech National Police wanted a new handgun to meet their needs. They wanted a design offering a high-level of comfort and ergonomics, based on the CZ 75 operating system. Called a "Generation 3" pistol, the P-01 is the final result of that journey down the road of new ideas. It fulfills the need for a lightweight, compact pistol having the same durability and accuracy of a full-sized, full-weight pistol. The National Police had a tough list of requirements--so tough, many companies simply bowed-out of the bid process, but CZ staked a claim to the prize--and won it.

Tough Tests

The P-01 was accepted after almost three years of testing and development. What CZ did to win the bid is something that few (how about zero?) designs have ever had to go through before greeting the buying public. For a military gun, sure, but in this case, the general public gets the same gun, same design and same specs as the police and military.

For instance, according to the information supplied by CZ, the gun had to withstand 4,000 dry-firings, 3,000 de-cockings, operator-level disassembly and re-assembly 1,350 times, complete disassembly (all the way down to pins and springs) 150 times, 100-percent parts interchangeability, a 1.5 meter drop test (54 times) on concrete, three meter drop test, firing after being frozen at -36 F for 24 hours, firing after being submerged in mud, sand and combinations--and after having been stripped of all oil. The service life must exceed 15,000 rounds of +P 9mm ammo and indeed, testing revealed the P-01 has exceeded 30,000 rounds with ball 9mm.

The reliability requirement protocol was particularly astounding. Set at 98.8 percent (.2 percent) failure rate, this was tough-enough for any gun. This equals 20 stoppages per 10,000 rounds, or 500 "mean rounds between failures" (MRBF). During testing, the average number of stoppages was only seven per 15,000 rounds, or .05 percent failure rate. This translates to a MRBF rate of 2,142 rounds. That happens to be about five times the minimum acceptable rate for the U.S. Army, which is set at 495 rounds for 9mm pistols with 115 gr. ball ammo.
 
I have to admit, I have never had a jam. Except on a new Glock. But that was fixed by a gunsmith. 1911's (3 brands) all work as expected... never a problem in a mess of rounds. Trying to persuade everyone out there that your favorite pistol is the best ever is a hopeless, and silly task. There are dozens and dozens of modern pistols that are fairly evenly matched... Just because your Sig is perfect does not mean that the next guy's CZ is not. It would be interesting to see some hard data on all the pistols being compared in a torture test... but until we have that, it is pointless to continue this... But I shall add my 2 cents to keep the thread alive and raise the blood of the Glock owners... the 1911 is the absolute... well, better not stir the hornets too much.


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It really depends on the circumstance.

If someone told me that I wsa going to be involved in a gunfight in five minutes, and my tool was any NIB autoloader, I would certainly pick a Glock based on their simplicity... Fewer parts, fewer parts for the manufacturer to screw up on.

If I had a choice between a glock, and, say, one of Tuner1911's guns, I'd take one of his, hands down.
 
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