FIVETWOSEVEN
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In my experiance I would say the PPK/S in .380.
What is the most painful to shoot pistol?
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My Brother in law had a S&W Model 629 made sometime in the 1980's. With the original wooden grips, it was very painfull to shoot. It had an 8 inch barrel, which kept the gun from riding up and it put the recoil right into your wrist.
Worse however, was the time I changed the stock on my Mossberg 12 Gauge. I put a cheap pistol grip on it. The recoil was horrendous. I think I put eight rounds through it, before my hand got too sore. It was swollen for a week. (Naturally, I changed the stock back to the original.
Worse however, was the time I changed the stock on my Mossberg 12 Gauge. I put a cheap pistol grip on it. The recoil was horrendous. I think I put eight rounds through it, before my hand got too sore. It was swollen for a week. (Naturally, I changed the stock back to the original.
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Me too. Not sure why. Being straight blowback seems to make it more painful to shoot also. I'd rather load my 629 with full-house .44 Magnums because it hurts less.
safebustr
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A TC in 35 Remington, OUCH!!! That darn thing would burn the hair off your feet if you shot it bare footed.
Hurt your ears too, even with hearing protection
Hurt your ears too, even with hearing protection
exdetsgt
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For me, all Smith &Wesson airweights. No fun at all. They carry well concealed, but that's it. Also Kel-Tec P3AT, three mags through that and you're done for the day.
KingMedicine
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My Mauser HSc in 32 auto. Yeah, its just a light and nice round. But jesus... the edge of the frame goes right into the soft spot in my palm of my hand and totally nails it each round. I hate that gun, but its a family gun... So it stays in the safe.
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I sometimes carry a P64. It's a fine little pistol, but I if I fire off more than 50 rounds in one session, I end up with blood on the knuckle/webbing of my thumb.
I keep practice with this pistols to around 4 or 5 magazines worth and it a day. It's not the most pleasant pistol to practice with, but it's definitely a chewer instead of a bone-crusher. I really like the pistol though. Though no powerhouse despite it's unpleasant recoil characteristics, I would say it still compares well to a 5 shot snub (which I also find perfectly adequate for most CCW use).
I keep practice with this pistols to around 4 or 5 magazines worth and it a day. It's not the most pleasant pistol to practice with, but it's definitely a chewer instead of a bone-crusher. I really like the pistol though. Though no powerhouse despite it's unpleasant recoil characteristics, I would say it still compares well to a 5 shot snub (which I also find perfectly adequate for most CCW use).
AirForceShooter
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Any snubby .357.
Any .380
AFS
Any .380
AFS
Mad Magyar
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LCP, of course....
hardluk1
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For me its my CA ultra light with 110gr+P and the 2 finger grip. Nasty little pistol
451 Detonics
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An American Arms derringer in 45/70...just one round convinced me I didn't ever need to shoot it again.
the count
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+1 on the PA 63, its like a hammer hitting your hand.
My original response was the Astra 600, a 9mm straight blowback design, but if we are including revolvers by far the worst was my 454 Casull Raging Bull. Despite the very long barrel and alleged recoil absorbing grips this gun was was a real nightmare. I shot about fifteen rounds through it and said "no way Jose". I decided to get PAST shooting gloves to handle it, but ended up asking "what's the sense" and traded it away. I'll use the gloves to shoot the Astra.
That 454 did come in handy for one thing. I shot it the first time on the day that I taught my 19 year old daughter to shoot. I started out the session at the outdoor range by shooting the 454. After sending a cylinder full downrange I looked back at my daughter who looked like a deer in the headlights. The range went cold and as we took off our hearing protection I explained to her that she wouldn't be shooting that gun. When she shot the gun for her, a Smith 5" barrel J frame (and later that day an M&P 9 Compact), she was so relieved. It was all relative. If for nothing else that 454 served a purpose and her current Colt Diamondback is like a pop-gun in comparison.
That 454 did come in handy for one thing. I shot it the first time on the day that I taught my 19 year old daughter to shoot. I started out the session at the outdoor range by shooting the 454. After sending a cylinder full downrange I looked back at my daughter who looked like a deer in the headlights. The range went cold and as we took off our hearing protection I explained to her that she wouldn't be shooting that gun. When she shot the gun for her, a Smith 5" barrel J frame (and later that day an M&P 9 Compact), she was so relieved. It was all relative. If for nothing else that 454 served a purpose and her current Colt Diamondback is like a pop-gun in comparison.
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S&W 340 with "real" .357 Magnum rounds.
Five years later, my wrist still hurts.
Five years later, my wrist still hurts.
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Got Lead, swap the recoil springs for the heaviest Wolfe sells and it'll be an entirely different gun. I hated my PA-63 when I got it, and it has the same issues as the P64 (30lb DA trigger, recoil like a .44mag). Swapped the recoil spring and hammer spring, and it's a completely different gun. DA trigger weight reduced to something more manageable, and recoil is now merely a bit snappy.
The Lone Haranguer
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1911s with sharp corners and/or poor fitting on the grip safety cut my hand, small-frame, lightweight snubnose revolvers pound my hand.
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Two guns come to mind: an Astra Model 600 and a stainless Walther PPK/s. The Astra, being a straight blowback 9mm., pounded the web of my hand into so much pulp after only 50 rounds. The Walther had more sharp edges than a drawer filled with razor blades.
Big_John1961
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Most painful one I've shot is my Seecamp .380. It's a little beast.
doc540
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lightweight snub in .357
Stevie-Ray
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T/C Contender in .45-70 tapered barrel. Like closing your hand around a firecracker, exactly.
405 gr factory loads are quite pleasant, but 300 gr Remingtons? No fun at all.
405 gr factory loads are quite pleasant, but 300 gr Remingtons? No fun at all.
Harmon:
Thanks, that's good to know a stiffer recoil spring can slow that slide down a bit before it comes to the end of it's travel. I did cut a turn or so off the hammer spring, to reduce that 30 pound trigger pull to about 29 lbs. I also got the dremeled off a bit of metal from the trigger bar, so in single action it doesnt engage at front of the pull, you don't have like a full inch of overtravel this way. Now the single action sear engages much farther back in trigger travel, like a regular gun.
The stiffer recoil spring is probably good advice for PPK and PA 63 owners too.
Doc, thats quite a photo, is that about 20 grains of WW296 behind a 125 gn HP?
Thanks, that's good to know a stiffer recoil spring can slow that slide down a bit before it comes to the end of it's travel. I did cut a turn or so off the hammer spring, to reduce that 30 pound trigger pull to about 29 lbs. I also got the dremeled off a bit of metal from the trigger bar, so in single action it doesnt engage at front of the pull, you don't have like a full inch of overtravel this way. Now the single action sear engages much farther back in trigger travel, like a regular gun.
The stiffer recoil spring is probably good advice for PPK and PA 63 owners too.
Doc, thats quite a photo, is that about 20 grains of WW296 behind a 125 gn HP?
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S&W Sigma .380
I have a S&W Sigma .380 that I bought in 1996. The recoil is all up. If your not ready for the snap it will jump right out of your hand. After 10 rounds I have bruising between my thumb and forefinger.
It will also give you arthritis in your index finger. I've never tested the trigger pull with a calibrated device, but it feels like 50+ lbs. 50+ lbs pulled through wet gritty sand.
On the plus side I've never had a failure in the 210 rounds I've fired through it.
I have a S&W Sigma .380 that I bought in 1996. The recoil is all up. If your not ready for the snap it will jump right out of your hand. After 10 rounds I have bruising between my thumb and forefinger.
It will also give you arthritis in your index finger. I've never tested the trigger pull with a calibrated device, but it feels like 50+ lbs. 50+ lbs pulled through wet gritty sand.
On the plus side I've never had a failure in the 210 rounds I've fired through it.
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