What is the most unreliable semi auto you have shot ?
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Voodoochile
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Back in the 80's it was a Tanfoglio .380, it would jam almost as often as you squeezed the trigger.
thedrewcifur
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an early .40 s&w hi point. it was horrible! but my late model hi point c9 works just fine. a bit heavy but fine. i'm looking to trade up very soon. then my c9 will become my new tackle box gun.
jmresistance
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Taurus .40
I had a striker fired Taurus .40 with a trigger that would only reset about half of the time. I think it was a Millenium or Millenium Pro... I shot a friends'
Baby Eagle in .45 ACP that jammed about every 3 rounds...
I had a striker fired Taurus .40 with a trigger that would only reset about half of the time. I think it was a Millenium or Millenium Pro... I shot a friends'
Baby Eagle in .45 ACP that jammed about every 3 rounds...
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I have a Mosquito and had some issues the first time I took it out. I didn't clean it before I took it out, so I can blame myself for most of the problems. I gave it a good cleaning and now it works flawlessly. It's pretty picky with ammo though, so I only feed it CCI Mini Mags and it does great.
New hi point c9
I actuslly got it "used". 3 years old. But PO must have never used it. Mag was like new. And thst was the issue.
Its an 8 roumd mag, and if ou only loaded 6. It was perfect. But any more amd it would jam the first two rounds every time.
Finally. After bending the brackets on top the mag, and keeping 8 rounds in it for a week to weeken the spring. I can honestly say i would trust my life. with it.. but not before a little tinkering.
I actuslly got it "used". 3 years old. But PO must have never used it. Mag was like new. And thst was the issue.
Its an 8 roumd mag, and if ou only loaded 6. It was perfect. But any more amd it would jam the first two rounds every time.
Finally. After bending the brackets on top the mag, and keeping 8 rounds in it for a week to weeken the spring. I can honestly say i would trust my life. with it.. but not before a little tinkering.
Dafish2011
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unreliable gun
S&W 1st gen sigma
S&W 1st gen sigma
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Well, after reading thru the first 10 pages of this thread, I will add my two
cents worth~!
For me, it has to be a Beretta model 92FS "Centurion". Horribly inaccurate,
as I could not get a decent group from 25 feet. Needless too say, I fixed
the problem by ditching it on another "firearms project".
cents worth~!
For me, it has to be a Beretta model 92FS "Centurion". Horribly inaccurate,
as I could not get a decent group from 25 feet. Needless too say, I fixed
the problem by ditching it on another "firearms project".
Guillermo
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Browning High Power.
Owned 2, neither one would work worth a crap.
John Moses screwed the pooch on that one
Owned 2, neither one would work worth a crap.
John Moses screwed the pooch on that one
DHart
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Guillermo.... Funny... the Browning Hi Power is widely considered to be one of the most reliable semi-autos of all time. My three copies (one 9mm and two in .40) have run absolutely flawlessly.
My dogs were a Kimber and my first 1911, a Springfield Loaded. It may have been "Loaded" but unloading it by firing was a trying experience. In hindsight after many years of 1911 ownership I'd say the Springer probably just needed an extractor tension adjustment, but it was my first 1911, and I didn't know squat about 1911's back then! Ha.
The Kimber was another story... Kimber kept telling me it needed more "break in" yet after wasting 1000 rounds of perfectly good ammo in extremely frustrating shooting, trying to "break it in", and several trips back to Yonkers, Kimber still couldn't get it to run right and I gave up in frustration with their BS.
My dogs were a Kimber and my first 1911, a Springfield Loaded. It may have been "Loaded" but unloading it by firing was a trying experience. In hindsight after many years of 1911 ownership I'd say the Springer probably just needed an extractor tension adjustment, but it was my first 1911, and I didn't know squat about 1911's back then! Ha.
The Kimber was another story... Kimber kept telling me it needed more "break in" yet after wasting 1000 rounds of perfectly good ammo in extremely frustrating shooting, trying to "break it in", and several trips back to Yonkers, Kimber still couldn't get it to run right and I gave up in frustration with their BS.
meanmrmustard
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Browning High Power, worst I've ever owned.
Guillermo
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I know...I know. That is why I bought them.
Couldn't get mine to run at all. One, local gunsmith could never make work. The other one was years ago, and when I gave up I sold it to a 'smith. He failed.
I am glad yours work well. As for me, when the ball drops, I don't want a High Power in my holster.
WinThePennant
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When it comes right down to it, couldn't you just replace one part after another until the flipping thing worked?
meanmrmustard
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Why would you want to replace a ton of stuff to make a supposedly reliable weapon run?
WinThePennant
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A working gun is better than a non-working gun, right?
Guillermo
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A local 'Smith with a national reputation failed. I gave up and sold the damned thing. Not only was I tossing too much money at it...my confidence in it was totally gone.
Yes...and I now have a working gun, because I don't have that one.
Understand...I am glad that your BHP function well. In fact, if you have a good Jimenez I am happy for you too.
After my experience with two BHPs, I found them to be jam-a-matics. I am quite happy that your mileage varies.
meanmrmustard
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If it's between buying a "reliable" weapon that doesn't run and spending money to fix it, or buying another gun that has been tested by myself and found to be reliable off the bat, guess what I'll be doin? I sold that POS BHP down the road, and purchased a S&W sigma. It's never faulted, and always goes bang. It was half what I spent on the BHP and since it's a newer VE model, no design problems. If I wanted to work on a gun part by part to get it shooting, I'd buy a kit gun. Not a BHP.
Perhaps the sacred cow isn't so sacred. I've noticed a lot of people want to believe that everything Browning touched turned to gold, but I've seen and heard too many issues to buy into that way of thinking. I'd say any number of modern designs are going to be more reliable at a lower price than a BHP or 1911.
Anyway, the most unreliable in my own experience would be either a Kel-Tec PF9 or an RIA 1911. To be fair, I think the RIA's failures were mostly mag related; it was a friend's gun so I couldn't investigate it myself. The PF9 is my own. All my other pistols are SIGs so I have a pretty high standard for reliability.
The PF9 ran fine for over 200 rounds, but then the takedown pin started coming loose during firing, which would cause FTF and it needs to be reseated before continuing. I don't want to condemn Kel-Tec at this point because it's pretty clear what the problem is and should be easy to fix. I haven't gotten around to calling them as I've been busy with other things.
Anyway, the most unreliable in my own experience would be either a Kel-Tec PF9 or an RIA 1911. To be fair, I think the RIA's failures were mostly mag related; it was a friend's gun so I couldn't investigate it myself. The PF9 is my own. All my other pistols are SIGs so I have a pretty high standard for reliability.
The PF9 ran fine for over 200 rounds, but then the takedown pin started coming loose during firing, which would cause FTF and it needs to be reseated before continuing. I don't want to condemn Kel-Tec at this point because it's pretty clear what the problem is and should be easy to fix. I haven't gotten around to calling them as I've been busy with other things.
WinThePennant
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All the more reason why I wish Glock would get into the single-stack deep concealed market. As much as I like Sig, they don't really have a 9mm pocket gun that is to my liking. I think the P290 is a little big for the pocket.
When Glock FINALLY (ever?) makes a pocket pistol, you can bet there will be a lot of used PF9's hitting the market. If Glock makes such a pistol, then I'll bet used PF9's will be selling for less than $100 because there will be so many of them available.
With all due respect Sig is hardly the a standard of quality. Apparently it is just your choice. It was the choice of my department as well until Glock came along. I own both and each has it's own merit and detraction.
With that said, Sig Customer Service totally sucks in my opinion. This could be a good reason why they are loosing market share. But this is just my opinion but, as soon as I sell my Sigs off I will never buy another.
With that said, Sig Customer Service totally sucks in my opinion. This could be a good reason why they are loosing market share. But this is just my opinion but, as soon as I sell my Sigs off I will never buy another.
Craig M. Arnold
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A Walther P22. What a POS. I sent it back and they sent me another one. Another POS.
The Walther P22 has to be one of the worst 22 pistols currently made.
The Walther P22 has to be one of the worst 22 pistols currently made.
The only gun I've sold because it was unreliable was a Kimber 1911 Stainless Target Match II (or something like that...) It would consistently fail to feed about every 7 or 8 rounds. It may have had a small or rough chamber, I don't know, but I've never had a problem with my Colts so the Kimber went.
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