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What is this thing on the side of my model 94?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by ImARugerFan, Mar 17, 2008.

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  1. ImARugerFan

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    The best guess I have is that it's where there used to be a saddle ring? Maybe it broke off one day and somebody filed what was left of it down? Any help appreciated.

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    Looks that way to me but I am no Winchester man.
     
  3. 41magsnub

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    That's the full auto switch!:evil:
     
  4. MilsurpShooter

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    It's the shoulder thing that goes up. Seriously though looks like the remnants of the saddle ring

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  5. DPris

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    Looks like the saddle ring stud has been ground down. Not everybody liked the things flopping around. Some owners had the ring removed if it got noisy & grinding the stud down was easier than plugging the hole with a threaded blank. Could easily be a "bunkhouse conversion".
    Denis
     
  6. andrewdl007

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    I have a 1915 Model 94 that belonged to my grandfather. It also has the saddle ring ground off because it was kept in a saddle scabard so I guess he figured it didnt need the ring.
     
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    This is why I come here! :D
     
  8. ImARugerFan

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    Anybody know where I can get a saddle ring assembly for this gun, or a plug screw? That is assuming I can manage to get the original one out of there...
     
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    Gun parts or Brownells
     
  10. ImARugerFan

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    It looks like all e-gunparts has is post 64 saddle ring plugs(don't know if they're the same threads), and no saddle ring assemblies in stock. Brownells lists the plug as "Dropped by Brownells" and doesn't offer an assembly.

    (I'll just make some calls if I decide to mess with it in the future, I'm sure I can find something)
     
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    Did you call Winchester/Browning?
    Denis
     
  14. ImARugerFan

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    I have not, I will probably start there. This gun my get reblued... until then a brand new saddle ring will probably look worse. I know that refinishing these guns can strip them of value, but I have no intentions of selling it and it has absolutely no finish on the receiver to begin with.
     
  15. DPris

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    You can call either "Winchester" or Browning, Browning handles parts for both brands.
    Make sure you tell them at least approximately how old the gun is (Pre '64, etc.), I don't know if threads & holes varied over the years.
    Good luck.
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  16. rcmodel

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    Regardless, the new Winchester or Browning company is not going to have a saddle ring & stud for a 94 that old.
    Might as well save your phone call.

    Wisners might make a repro if Winchester Bob doesn't pan out.
    http://www.wisnersinc.com/rifles/winchester/94.html

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  17. Bridger

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    Forgive my ignorance, but all this time I've been wondering what the hell the saddle ring does anyway?
     
  18. Soap

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    It is a retention device for a mounted shooter. Should you drop the rifle for whatever reason, a saddle ring and a piece of rawhide around your body can do wonders.
     
  19. Vern Humphrey

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    The normal use for a Saddle Ring was to attach a leather thong tied to form a loop. This loop was passed around the saddle horn. The gun could either be allowed to hang muzzle down from the saddle horn, or carried across the thighs, with the loop providing extra insurance against being dropped.

    In the early part of the 1800s, a common carry device was simply a piece of leather with two "button hole" slits in it. The first slit was "buttoned" to the saddle horn, and the leather folded back on the rider's lap. The rifle was placed on the leather, and the second button hole fastened to the horn.
     
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    You might try Numrich Arms for oddball parts, scroll down the firearm list and find your gun, exstensive list. Good luck.
     
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    ironically its just about the right spot to be where the "bubba" off switch for the modern cross bolt safety is...

    Still, after this many years its probably going to be rusted in, and rusted in screws SUCK at removal.
     
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    If it doesn't come out easily, spray PB Blaster on it for a few days running and let it soak in. It works way better than Liquid Wrench. PB Blaster has enabled me to unscrew 40 year old exhaust manifold bolts. I think Wal-Mart carries the stuff.
     
  24. MilsurpShooter

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    Another vote for PB blaster but use it in decent ventilation, I can't stand the smell of that stuff. But it works. Rusted Manifold bolts on an old GMC Jimmy that had sat in the woods for 10+ years, also on a barreled reciever that was literally dug out of my friends back yard.
     
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    I took the ring off my Rossi 92. All it's good for is making noise, not a good thing when hunting.
     
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