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What is your raw opinion on Cold Steel?

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Soap, Apr 9, 2003.

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  1. Soap

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    The title pretty much sums it up; what is your raw opinion on Cold Steel as a company, their knives, etc.?
     
  2. Navy joe

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    Ok knives, worth their asking price, usable. Too much hype in sales. Fun curio products on the side. What Ruger pistols would be had they a marketing department.
     
  3. Schuey2002

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    :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

    You asked. I answered. ;)
     
  4. Bruz

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    Only got a couple products from them...

    Scimitar - http://www.onestopknifeshop.com/store/cold-steel-scimitar.html Cool looking knife, but very cheap up close compared to all my other knves. You can see light through the seams where the two halves meet. Very hard to open, even with the Brownie POP. Tried to loosen the pivot screw with the proper tool and it rounded the corners. Knife was new but blade was "dull". The liner lock safety is not a solid piece of metal, it is bent over to give a thicker look...only knife I wish I would not of bought.

    Bushman - http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-Product Spec?CS95BUS, Bought as a survival "Rambo" knife with a hollow handle to keep sutures, fishing line, etc. in. The handle is hollow, but the steel is bent over like a shovel as it attaches to the handle. Not sealed so not practical as for what I intended. Ended up sticking a spear shaft on it making it a long handled knife...no I have not found a use for it yet, but if I ever beach a whale, stand back! Came very sharp and is priced well, 3 year guarantee against breaking...any bets?

    Spear handle - "Unbreakable" Waxwood spear handle. Was shaping it and found was infested with "worms", live larvae. Sent them an e-mail and they never got back to me.

    Cat Tanto - http://botachtactical.com/colcattan.html . OK, I was close to getting free shipping and free gift so I started adding items. This is just a cheap plastic knife. If I ever need to go through a metal detector to kill someone in the shower and leave the knife I am prepared.

    Uhhh, what was your question again?
     
  5. IRONFIST

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    I own and have carried the Cold Steel "Kobun" tanto-style knife. Matte black, very sharp, good sheath, good "gripper" haft and very flat and concealable. I would buy another if needed. I might also buy the "Oyabun", which is the same style knife, but has a longer blade. The price was good, picked it up on Ebay for 20 bucks. Makes a very good boot knife.

    Michael in Sandy, OR
     
  6. Dave Williams

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    sharp

    Their knives are the sharpest out of the box factory knives I've experienced. Anyone know of a factory that makes them sharper?

    Dave
     
  7. Al Thompson

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    "What Ruger pistols would be had they a marketing department."

    I think that is a very insightful remark and I agree. I've got four of their belt knives - SRK, Master Hunter, Kukri and a Trailmaster. All have worked well and are very good values for the money.
     
  8. mtnbkr

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    Overhyped, overpriced junk (can't stand plastic handles). I especially dislike how CS blasted companies for using steels in the past that they now use.

    As for being the sharpest, well, I won't buy one, so I don't know just how sharp they are, but I can't imagine them being any sharper than my Buck PCKS 110 (hair popping, scary sharp) or any of the Microtech, Spyderco, etc knives I've handled.

    Chris
     
  9. brownie0486

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    There's just is no pleasing everyone. Knives and how individuals view them are very subjective. Thats why there are so many companies giving us a miriad of choices in bladewares.

    I like the carbon V steel they use. I sharpen knives on Sunday mornings at my local club [ as well as sell them ] and have had many a CS on the stones over the years.

    I get to see the abuse people give their knives and how dull they let them get, as well as lack of due diligence in the maintenance of their knives.

    The CS SRK and Trailmaster bowies are very good products, the SRK actually being one of the best buys in a knife of that type that can be found in mass production circles in my opinion based on experience working with it.

    I have two SRK's. One sits permanently in the "go" bag brand new and the other is not used but available and not reserved for future use in the bag.

    I have some very expensive [well made] customs I could throw into the bag but the SRK; a swiss army multi-tool and a spyderco endura sit in the bag ready to be taken into harms way if need be.
     
  10. Scott Evans

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    High, medium and adequate quality items in their line. Over hyped ...? Yes. ( i.e. Carbon V is 1095). All in all though; a good line up with many items that function very well and that I could find a use for. In my opinion their price is reasonable for most of what they sell. Just my .02
     
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    Actually I understand that carbon v is 52000 or 52100 ball bear steel with vanadium as an added element and not 1095.

    Brownie
     
  12. Soap

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    My opinion is that their folders are overpriced and ugly. But I really like some of their belt knives and some of their "specialty items" for fun.
     
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    I too have a Cold Steel SRK. A very good knife for the money -- it works for the intended purpose.

    However, I gotta agree that the marketing is a bit hyped up. Just see their More Proof DVD. Did anyone else think that the testimonial by Dan I (can't spell his last name -- he was in Game of Death) was a bit weak?

    Justin
     
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    I like 'em, but not everything they ever built. Same as with music, not every album's gonna go gold.
    Right now I have several of their knives, and while they're not WOW like Benchmade, I'd say they're more like Spyderco, in that you'll get a good blade for a price that doesn't make you think twice about actually using the bugger, or hate life if you loose it.
     
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    The SRK is my only CS, and it has been just the thing for splitting kindling or opening a coconut. The black finish does wear off. The combination kydex-nylon sheath is a bit cheesy. I like the Kraton handle fine. I've looked at their other fixed blades but I don't have a use for a monster like the Khukuri.
     
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    They're decent, but I'm sick of their "we're better than so-and-so and I'll prove it" whiny tactics.

    Some I have/had:

    Black Bear Classic
    Triple Action (spear point)
    Safe Keeper II
    Cullodeon
    Voyager 4"
    Scimitar
    "Recon" Tanto
    4 1/8" tanto (discontinued)
     
  17. Joe Demko

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    The products I've owned and handled have all been of decent quality, if somewhat overpriced at times. Lynn "Tanto" Thompsons marketing tactics get on my nerves something awful and have steered me to buy from other companies more than once or twice.
     
  18. Scott Evans

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    Ment to say Carbon V = 0170-6C
     
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    They produce a decent product at a reasonable price, but have done so obnoxiously enough that I usually shy away from them (this saying I currently have a san mai master tanto in my desk drawer and a kukri hanging at the house). To some extent this is a reflection of Lynn Thompson himself. He's got good folks working for him and they privately say (i.e. out of ear shot of the boss over beers) he's really a great guy after you get to know him. I just haven't gotten to that point and I'm sure that Lynn won't stay up late anguishing over whether I personally like him or not. Some of their designs are silly, some are good, some are great.

    As to "sharpest out of the box", there are companies that make knives as sharp and sharper and some that don't. CS is middle of the road for a knife company.
     
  20. Dave Williams

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    Who makes knives sharper out of the box?

    In my experience, not Benchmade, Spyderco, Emerson, Gerber, or CRKT.

    I have no experience with Microtech or MOD.

    Thanks,

    Dave
     
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    Spear handle - "Unbreakable" Waxwood spear handle. Was shaping it and found was infested with "worms", live larvae. Sent them an e-mail and they never got back to me.

    Te be fair they finally got back to me today and said that they would send out another...

    Who makes knives sharper out of the box?

    The Bushman was one of the sharpest knives I have received out of the box, the Shimitar one of the least sharp. My Emerson LCC was by far the sharpest. Perhaps blade design is a factor?
     
  22. Don Gwinn

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    Sharpest production knife I ever owned was my late lamented Spyderco Native. I never found Cold Steel edges all that impressive out of the box. To be fair, the Bushman is a thick blade with a thick edge, and it was still able to shave (but not well) when I bought it.

    I like Cold Steel. I dislike their screaming hype, but they're not alone. Anybody followed Mad Dog's career? Strider? It's all about hype for these people, even though all three make very good (but different) knives.

    I love their khukris (yes, now you can get cooler ones from HI, but not when CS started making them) the SRK, the Vaquero Grande, the Tai Pan, and a bunch of others. And who else out there is making 1917 cutlasses, or the Bushman, or double-headed battle axes for under $50, or an honest-to-goodness mace? That stuff is just too cool to pass up.
     
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    Who's sharper? Microtech, Blackjack(former and current) and Marbles have all been sharper from the factory.

    Don's right. No one takes the chances that CS does, and that counts for something.
     
  24. Watchman

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    I have a few.

    Bushmaster
    Recon Tanto
    Lightweight Kukri
    Bando ***. Kukri
    6" Gunsite Tanto Folder
    4" Gunsite Tanto Folder
    4" Tanto Folder wirh 50/50 edge
    4" Tanto Folder
    PeaceKeeper III
    Little neck knife


    There are better looking knives. I personally have never seen a sharper factory knife, so far they have everyone beat.

    For pure utility they are hard to beat. I USE my knives, I do alot of primitive camping and the Kraton handles are great.

    The Trailmaster has cut many poles in its life.
    I have skinned many dear and turkey with them.
    Blood is not a problem and they are easy to bring back to a shaving edge.

    I have had and still have Bucks, Spyederco's,Gerbers and even a few custom Lile knives. They are all good knives but when Im really gonna USE one, the Cold Steels make the trip with me.
     
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    What is your raw opinion on

    I haven't seen a Microtech that wasn't as sharp as I like myself.

    Most knives are set to ceramics immediately but not the MT's. I touched em just to feel good about it but they really were that way already.

    Have sold many SRK's and sharpened many others. They come sharp as well.

    My Piorek Kwaiken with pocket, IWB, shoulder rig combo came sharp.

    The Bagwell Bowies came sharp as well.

    I'm fussy about sharp when it's for defensive purposes. Most would be real happy with the Trailmaster but I did it up to my liking. Still not as sharp as the Bagwells.

    Natives come sharp but I did put a finer edge on it which it didn't need. That knife is a real work horse.

    Brownie
     
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