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What kills more people than guns?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by MagnumDweeb, Nov 20, 2008.

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  1. MagnumDweeb

    MagnumDweeb Member

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    Most of us have read that in 2005 guns killed 30,000 people, 18,000 of which were suicieds as I have read. I don't know how many of those kills were police officers in-action or other LEOs, or how many were self-defense. The statistic as I understand it that guns are used at minimum 400,000 times a year to defend body and life, though not entirely sure.

    The key point of this post is that as I understand it is that 300,000 people are killed on the road every year and a million more injured. Most of us gunnies use this argument when people want to say that we should get rid of guns to keep people from killing. But I wonder how many people die because of:

    Sex: unprotected, protected, (like from Sexually transmitted diseases)
    Cigarettes: cancer, falling asleep and burning up in a fire
    Alcohol: liver cancer, alcohol poison, drunk driving
    Power tools: injuries and deaths
    Chocolate: High Cholesterol and obessity
    Cheese: (got this one from "Thank You for Smoking")

    Just some ideas, after my exams are over I plan on doing some research. Imagine some lefty anti going on about guns killing people and retorting "Well sex kills...Just look at Africa...we all need to stop having sex...well you antis need to stop having sex and we'd all be alright after fifty years." LOl.
     
  2. Treo

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    It is a medical fact that every one in the world dies from the same thing,

    Lack of oxygen to the brain brought on by cardiac arrest

    That is what kills more people than anything else
     
  3. leadcounsel

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    Drowing (pools, tubs, buckets, etc.) is a number FIVE (yes 5) cause of unintentional injury and death in America!

    Time to ban bathing!
     
  4. leadcounsel

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    Medical mistakes in hospitals claim the lives of between 44,000-100,000 people per year!
     
  5. ambidextrous1

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    I'm tapering off: Bathing only once a month now.:uhoh:
     
  6. Geno

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    The last I heard auto accidents kill about 50,000 per year.
     
  7. DRYHUMOR

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    Stupidity mostly... on someone's part.
     
  8. withdrawn34

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    Interesting tidbit I found from a cursory search:

    http://www.rense.com/general62/gns.htm

    Unfortunately they do not list their sources.
     
  9. DCSCO

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    Heard today (NPR) that smoking causes 1200 deaths per day. How did they figure that out?
     
  10. jordan1948

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    Other people.
     
  11. possom813

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    I was way off, I was thinking the final answer was the government.
     
  12. possum

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    drunk drivers
     
  13. ugaarguy

    ugaarguy Moderator Staff Member

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    Heart Disease

    http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4478
     
  14. Sir Aardvark

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    It's nice to see that "Medical Misadventure" was identified early as a larger cause of death than guns.

    It is hypocritical of the AMA to take such an anti-gun stance, when they defend the rights of incompetent physicians.
     
  15. Bubba613

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    More kids drown in swimming pools than die by accidental gun fire.
    More people are injured falling off of ladders than accidentally by guns.

    What was the point of this again?
     
  16. Double Naught Spy

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    The point wasn't accidental deaths. The query was as to what actually kills more people than guns.
     
  17. ar10

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    I know! I know!!!. Old age. That kills everyone eventually. :D:D
     
  18. Jeff F

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    Smoking
     
  19. Jeff F

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    I would think DUI also.
     
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    US Death rates (per 100,000):

    Accidental discharge of firearms (W32-W34) 0.3
    Intentional self-harm (suicide) by discharge of firearms (X72-X74) 5.7
    Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms (*U01.4,X93-X95) 4.2
    Discharge of firearms, undetermined intent (Y22-Y24) 0.1
    Total of all firearms causes: 10.3

    More people die from hernias than suicide by firearms:
    Hernia (K40-K46) 0.5
    Motor vehicle accidents 15.2

    Some other interesting facts:
    Whites had a higher incidence of suicide by firearm at 6.3, compared to 2.7 for blacks and 2.4 for all others, while whites had a much lower firearm homicide rate at 2.2, compared to 16.0 for blacks and 11.6 for all others.

    Breaking these figures down by race, and comparing them to rates in countries with similar racial make ups shows you will see that the US is in line with those countries. This to me suggests that murder is a phenomenon that is more related to cultural factors than to the means of carrying it out.
     
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    Other people.
     
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    Latest CDC data (2005) for non medical related accidental deaths, all ages, all races, both sexes

    Forgive the look, the page doesn't copy/paste/format too well

    Cause of Death Deaths Percent
    MV Traffic 43667 37.07
    Poisoning 23618 20.05
    Fall 19656 16.68
    Unspecified 6551 5.56
    Suffocation 5900 5.01
    Drowning 3582 3.04
    Fire/burn 3299 2.8
    Natural/ Environment 2462 2.09
    Other Land Transport 1533 1.3
    Other Spec., classifiable 1479 1.26
    Pedestrian, Other 1157 0.98
    Other Transport 1133 0.96
    Other Spec., NEC 1020 0.87
    Struck by or Against 880 0.75
    Firearm 789 0.67
    Machinery 755 0.64
    Pedal cyclist, Other 227 0.19
    Cut/pierce 90 0.08
    Overexertion 11 0.01

    Latest CDC data for suicide as of 2005, broken down by all ages, all races, both sexes

    Cause of Death Deaths
    Firearm 17002
    Suffocation 7248
    Poisoning 5744
    Fall 683
    Cut/pierce 590
    Drowning 375
    Other Spec., classifiable 328
    Other Spec., NEC 228
    Unspecified 166
    Fire/burn 160
    Transportation- Related 113

    If you want to slice and dice the data over time, by location, age, sex etc etc

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/wisqars/default.htm
     
  23. benEzra

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    Alcohol. The CDC estimates 100,000 deaths/yr from all causes, including accidents, homicides, and alcohol-related diseases. That number is probably inflated, because the NHTSA routinely inflates the number of alcohol-caused traffic fatalities by 50% or so, but 75,000 is probably a pretty solid number.

    By comparison, all rifles combined (including so-called "assault weapons") account for less than 500 murders/year.
     
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    What about global warming and Manbearpig?
     
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