Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Styx, Jul 5, 2022.
With single actions, if you can’t shuck a shell out with the ejector, or if the ejector is deleted due to short length then I think it counts.
Took the words right out of my mouth!
2" for 38/357 and smaller and 45 auto sized
3" for 44M 45C 500 etc.
Historically, I've felt that a "standard" minimum barrel length for a "standard" revolver is 4".
The manufacturers have issued a variety of revolvers with barrels shorter than 4" and longer than 2".
In my opinion, a large frame revolver can be carried equally well with a 4" barrel as a less than 4" revolver. There is little advantage for carry purposes of the shorter barrel.
Also, a 3" J-frame revolver is probably as easy to carry as a 2" J-frame although it does not work as well for pocket carry.
I guess I feel any revolver with a barrel 3" or less is a snub nose revolver, but it does not mean as it can be carried as concealable as a smaller frame revolver.
While I have some 2-1/2" to 3" revolvers in frames larger than J-frames, I feel they are some what worthless. I'd rather have the 4" barrels for those revolvers.
I have a 3" Lew Horton 44 Special S&W M624 and a standard issue S&W M624 44 Special revolver. The 4" barrel version is much more pleasant to shoot and just as easy to carry as the 3" Lew Horton Model.
I have a 2-3/4" barrel M69 revolver. Nuff said on full power loads.. There is little advantage over the 4" version.
Just one opinion.
My favorite short barrel revolvers
I added that one to my “Favorites”.
Granted, there were the 3" models offered in both J & K-frames by S&W, and the niche they occupied was generally described as being snub nose models. The 3" K-frames enjoyed popularity among some LE agencies as plainclothes guns, ordered instead of the existing 2" & 2 1/2" models. A little extra barrel length for added velocity and longer extractor rods/extraction wasn't a bad thing to some users.
When the average service barrel lengths ran 4"- 8 3/4", anything less than 4" was usually described as a 'snub' barrel version, regardless of frame size.
Now, if you want to really debate what to call a revolver just based upon barrel length, how about the 3 1/2" .357MAG N-frame Model 27's that were so popular many years ago.
As to what barrel length, anything 2.99" or less fits this category.
3" or 4" max according to all of these sources.
That is my opinion. Others believe the frame size is a major factor or it has to be small pocket sized. IMHO, it exclusively and explicitly has to do with the barrel length.
My Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan is a snub-nosed revolver, and that is a scientific fact.
I think it’s funny that in the gun world there never seems to be a definitive answer to some things.
Honestly, if anyone seriously told me that a 4” barreled revolver, regardless of frame size, was a “Snub Nose” I am pretty sure I would wonder what they were smoking or maybe I would wonder who influenced them to think that.
I decided to do a search…a tedious search for gun writers or famous gun people regarding “snub nosed revolvers”. I was surprised at how few I actually found, but then it’s late and I am tired so I didn’t get too fancy in my searches.
We have Wiley Clapp…he says 2” or less.
Revolverguy…3” or less. (Not famous…maybe)
Mike Venturino…3” for big bore
Mike Venturino…2” on S&W’s
Sheriff Jim Wilson…2.5”
John Fitzgerald…2” for his Fitz Specials
Massad Ayoob writes about “Snubbies” but doesn’t define barrel length.
Something that I did find interesting is how many bloggers have opinions on Snubbies. I didn’t list any here as I find most bloggers really don’t know what they’re talking about snd most parrot info they have gleaned from others that may or may not know what they are talking about…like whoever edited that Wikipedia article on snub nosed revolvers. Yes, the one I copied and pasted. 4 inches. No. Not a snubby.
Over the web with firearm publications and even with YouTube influencers, the 3" length seems to be in the majority. On another forum poll, it 52.4% to 47.5% in favor of 3" and 4" with 82 votes in, so it's almost tied. Here, It's 66.6% to 30.8% overwhelmingly for 2.5" or less. Guess it's all up to whatever made up criteria one decides to apply on their own.
I was at my LGS recently when a guy and a girl were there buying CCW handguns.
The clerk showed them a selection of snub nosed revolvers. There were Ruger LCRs, S&W 642s, 442s and 2 versions of model 36’s and a couple Taurus 856’s.
The guy said “We’re not interested in Snubbies. We want semiauto. The barrels are too short.”
The girl gave him a funny look and commented on how big the semiautos were.
The store displays all the full size SA pistols I’m a wall.
The clerk proceeded to show them an S&W M&P Shield 9mm. Which they seemed to like.
I couldn’t help myself. I said “The barrel on that Shield is a tad over 3 inches which includes the chamber so technically it’s the same length as a Snubbie revolver.”
The clerk agreed. The guy looked befuddled. The girl smiled. I left.
I found out later the girl bought a Taurus 856.
The guy bought the Shield.
Edit: The girl didn’t seem all that keen to be there and appeared to be attracted to the revolvers. I highly doubt “tactical thinking” was on her mind. I think she was there due to the insistence of her boyfriend/husband.
Ignorance is bliss..
20 years from now when he's long gone and she's fired a total of 30 rounds out of that revolver ever, she will still know how to load it and unload it and make it go bang.
What’s the model of this Taurus?
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