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What powder for .223/5.56?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by kludge, Jan 8, 2009.

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  1. kludge

    kludge Member

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    I'm be looking for powder this weekend.

    I'm looking for velocity and accuracy with 55 and 69 grain bullets.

    after looking at the data I'm leaning towards Varget. Is there a better choice?
     
  2. mac1045

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    223/5.56 powder

    Pats Reloading in Massillon Oh has the best powder for .223/5.56. He sells G.I. WC 844 and 845 which are the powders the government developed for this cartridge. I have shot many sub 1/2 in groups using WC844 and 55 or 62 gr IMI G.I bullets
     
  3. IndianaBoy

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    Hodgdon BLC2 works well for me with 55 grain bullets. Varget fills the case awfully close to the top. I am using a progressive press and if you flick the indexing around too fast varget will sometimes spill out.

    The burn rate of BLC2 and Varget is very close, and BLC2 is much less bulky. I am getting good results with 26.5 grains of BLC2 which is 1 grain under what my manual lists as maximum. My brass lasts a long time and I get excellent results without that last little bit of velocity and large amount of pressure to be gained with max loads.
     
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    Hodgdon H335

    Nice peppy powder that should be available in most shops.

    Scott
     
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    Reloader 15
     
  6. redw7blue

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    H335 powder
    CCI450 primers

    Shoots great
     
  7. Galil5.56

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    Agreed. Also like AA2460, and WW748 with 450's as well.
     
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    I like AA-2230 and AA-2460. IMR-4320 is pretty good,not the best but okay.
     
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    i like extruded powders like h322, varget, and benchmark.

    the varget has bigger granules, but it still drops pretty good from my measures.
     
  10. kludge

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    Bryan,

    After the responses here and googling, I'm thinking Varget, due to compressed loads may not be for me, and now I'm leaning toward Benchmark (I don't have any problems with extruded powders, and I'm not using a progressive).

    Do you have any further comments about Benchmark?

    TIA.
     
  11. ants

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    Benchmark for 55 grain bullets is a well kept secret (52 and 53 grain also). Just below max load works well.

    Benchmark seems to be a little too fast for 69 grain bullets. It works, but just doesn't seem to get the best accuracy. That's where Varget shines. Varget under 69, 75 and 77 grain bullets works extremely well with mid level charges that are not compressed. Some powder measures don't seem to measure Varget very consistently, be sure to double check your charges. If the charge isn't consistent you will think that the powder is incapable of accuracy. With consistent charges it is very capable.

    By the way, nothing wrong with compressed charges as long as you're going by a published manual.
    It isn't dangerous. It won't explode on the press or anything. But you always want to start low and work up anyway. Don't go straight to max load where you find compressed charges.
     
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    H-335, and never look back;)
     
  13. Walkalong

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    Use a long drop tube to get more Varget in the case without having to compress it seating a bullet. That said. H335 is hard to beat, and W 748 has the same rep.
     
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    Just about anything, H335, Varget, Blc2, H322, H414, Benchmark, IMR 4895, H4895, Reloader 15.. I think you get the idea.
     
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    A somewhat scienfitc assessment of 223 powders

    Kludge -

    A friend and I recently built a spreadsheet for 233 loading. Now of course, extreme accuracy could not be taken into account in a spreadsheet, but the only powders we considered were ones that had been recommended by other shooters as "good for the AR". That is to say accurate and clean burning.

    We looked at burn rate, cost, cost per load, loads per pound, and wear & tear on the gun. We had absolutely no "favorites" going in. We needed a recommendation on a powder that we both understood would be new to us. Alliant Reloader 10X and Reloader 15 could not be included due to the lack of reloading data on Alliant's own website. (They have not returned our email so far. Should they respond, their information certainly will.)

    However, at this point, the clear winner among 14 highly recommended 223 powders is (drum roll please).... Ramshot TAC. We were also very pleasantly surprised to find the TAC was also useful with nearly all 223 bullet weights, as well as in several other calibers. And TAC is a ball powder making use with mechanical powder dispensers easier.

    I'll let you know how it goes after our order arrives.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    BLC-2 for 55gr and 77 works great for me
     
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    Has anyone tried WW748?
    I know its a ball powder but I wondered if anyone was using it for 223.
     
  18. matrem

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    Thousands of rds through .223 with 748.Very good!
     
  19. flying

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    Great I just bought some.
    Mind telling your load & bullet weight? Barrel twist
     
  20. Clark

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    H335 for velocity
    Blue Dot for ground squirrels.

    It is really hard to find a powder than does NOT do well in 223.
     
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  22. SteveW-II

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    Another vote for 26.5 grains of BLC-2 under a 55 grain bullet.
     
  23. matrem

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    "Great I just bought some.
    Mind telling your load & bullet weight? Barrel twist"
    Specific loads need to be "tailored" to specific rifles.
    A good manual will start you off right.
     
  24. flying

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    Yes sure ...but I was curious & the two thing I mentioned IMHO make the biggest difference.
    So if we are both shooting 65 gr bullets thru a 1x7 20" barrel then I have a base in mind.
    But like I said I was just curious thanks.
     
  25. PCJim

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    And vote # 3

    for 26.5 grains of BL-C(2) pushing 55gr FMJBTs. Meters like water in my progressive and gives good case fill which can easily be checked before indexing.
     
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