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What SD rnds in your .38 spl snub-nosed revolver?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by AStone, Apr 13, 2007.

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What SD rnds in your .38 spl snub-nosed revolver?

  1. 110 gr. Cor-Bon DPX +P

    42 vote(s)
    5.1%
  2. 110 gr. Federal Low Recoil HS/JHP

    48 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. 125 gr. Remington Golden Saber +P

    56 vote(s)
    6.9%
  4. 125 gr. Speer Gold Dots +P

    74 vote(s)
    9.1%
  5. 125 gr. Winchester JHP +P

    38 vote(s)
    4.7%
  6. 125 gr. Buffalo Bore jacketed hollow cavity

    8 vote(s)
    1.0%
  7. 129 gr. Federal Hydra-shok JHP +P

    58 vote(s)
    7.1%
  8. 130 gr. Winchester Supreme STX +p

    8 vote(s)
    1.0%
  9. 135 gr. Speer Gold Dot +P

    236 vote(s)
    28.9%
  10. 148 gr. Federal Gold Medal Match full wadcutter

    21 vote(s)
    2.6%
  11. 150 gr. Buffalo Bore hard cast wad cutter

    18 vote(s)
    2.2%
  12. 158 gr. Buffalo Bore FBI +P

    36 vote(s)
    4.4%
  13. 158 gr. LSWCHP FBI +P (specify brand)

    153 vote(s)
    18.7%
  14. 158 gr. Magtech Semi Jacketed Hollow Point (SJHP) +P

    12 vote(s)
    1.5%
  15. 158 gr. Speer TMJ +P

    13 vote(s)
    1.6%
  16. Other: please specify

    108 vote(s)
    13.2%
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  1. AStone

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    This poll is a collaborative research project by members of The 642 Club.

    We are researching optimal SD (self defense) rnds for .38 spl snub-nosed revolvers with barrels of 2" or less.
    We shoot air weights (642, 442, 637...), but are interested in optimal rnds for 2" barrels regardless of gun weight.

    We have included 16 different rnds in this poll. We acknowledge that there are other rnds available, but because these polls only allow 16 options, we have chosen 16 of the more commonly used SD rnds (based on our experience). If your SD rnd is not included, please vote "other" and let us know what it is.

    Also, if you're willing, please tell us why you chose the SD rnd that you use.

    Penetration? Velocity? Autopsy studies? Cost? Reputation? Availability? Recoil? Other factors?

    Finally, if you based your decision on published information, please cite sources.

    Thanks.

    Nem
     
  2. sm

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    158 grain Lead Semi Wadcutter
    Not hollow point
     
  3. glockman19

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    I use a couple of different rounds in my 642/442.

    My choices are:
    110 gr. Federal Low Recoil HS/JHP
    125 gr. Speer Gold Dots +P
    129 gr. Federal Hydra-shok JHP +P
    135 gr. Speer Gold Dot +P
    158 gr. Speer TMJ +P

    AS you can see I like both Federal & Speer Ammunition. My most used is:
    110 gr. Federal Low Recoil HS/JHP
    129 gr. Federal Hydra-shok JHP +P
    158 gr. Speer TMJ +P

    Although I have pelnty of all.

    I'm interested in hearing about others thoughts on rounds I currently don't use or have.
     
  4. Stainz

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    I keep Rem R38S12 158gr +P LSWCHP in speedloaders for my 2" 10, 5" 686+, and 6" 66, with the latter two locked away. The 2" 10 and my 642 are kept loaded. I chose the round due to it's long-time record of effectiveness.

    Stainz
     
  5. loplop

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    442: Remington "FBI Load." I also chose this for its proven effectiveness, and the softer lead of the Remington over the other brands as I believe it expands better out of a snubby. I carry a speed strip reload with Speer GDHP 135gr 38sl +P load for commonality with...

    MP340: Speer GDHP 135gr 38 +P. I experience bullet pull with the FBI load in this gun, so I run the Speer's when I carry 38spl. here.
     
  6. Ala Dan

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    158 grain Federal Nyclads
     
  7. jparham

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    If, by the time I come of age, cncealed carry is still legal, I'll probably pack a snub with the Buffalo Bore 158-grain lead semi-wadcutter hollowpoint. Proven effectiveness of the FBI load, and a roarin' flas-suppressed 350 ft-lbs to boot. Corbon DPX also does this, but in a much lighter bullet. If I want light bullets, I'd carry a nine.
     
  8. Iggy

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    158 grain gas checked Lead Semi Wadcutter, no hollow point. I want all the penetration I can get with a short barreled gun, and I don't think I will get sufficient expansion in most cases to make a difference..

    Hit them hard and often.
     
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  9. hit or miss

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    Remington +P 125 grain SJHP R38S2 in my 637. When I bought the gun last week that was the only HP load he had for the 38 in the store. I hate to have a gun and not have any suitable sd loads so I bought them. I'll be interested to follow this thread for the info and the research.
     
  10. tackleberi

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    I carry the short-barrel .38's by Speer in my Colt DS, but am really looking forward to receiving Buffalo Bore's 158gr. NON +P's that I ordered earlier this week.
     
  11. HiWayMan

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    Speer 146gr Semi-Jacketed SWC-HP @ 850fps. Chosen because it doesn't lead like the 158gr LSWCHP and POA=POI.


    Self-cast Lee 148gr TLWC (actual weight 152gr, 18-22 BHN) @ 950fps

    Chosen after reading Cirillo's book, re-affirmed by Buff Bores new release, and POA=POI
     
  12. Brassman

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    For +p rated revolvers: Remington 158gr LSWHP +p (expansion & penetration and 30+ year history as excellent SD round)

    For non +p rated weapons: Federal 110gr JHP Low Recoil hydra shoks (expansion and low recoil for easy 2nd shot placement)
     
  13. earplug

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    158 LSWC

    158 grain LSWC. 4 grains of WW 231
    to lazy and cheap to chase around town for a box of Remingtons or Winchester 158 grain LHP.
    They all shoot to point of aim.
     
  14. Scotticus

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    As long as I've got some left, I am loaded with the old Corbon 125gr +p.

    Otherwise, another 125gr +p (I've got some Winchester right now) in my Taurus 85SSUL. The Speer 135gr short barrel and the Buffalobore sound great but they are almost impossible to find in my neck of the woods.
     
  15. universal

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    I carry the Speer 135 grain +P load in my Smith & Wesson model 640 (no dash, .38 Special).

    The reasons I chose this load are:

    1) The high quality of Speer products,

    2) The fact that the load was made for short barreled revolvers,

    3) The NYPD uses them,

    and 4) This info packet: http://www.le.atk.com/pdf/SpeerTech38_135HP.pdf
     
  16. Kimber1911_06238

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    you forgot the speer gold dot short barrel flavor
     
  17. SaxonPig

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    I use my own loads with 125 JHP Remington Golden Sabre bullets over 7.0 grains of Unique for 1,100 FPS from a 5" revolver which probably means about 1,000-1,025 from the 2" gun. Factory +P clocks a pathetic 840 FPS from a 2" M&P (925 from the 5" revolver).
     
  18. universal

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    That is the 135 grain +P load.
     
  19. Maddock

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    For my 442 I carry the remainder of a case of Cor-Bon 158gr LSWHP (975 fps from my 442). When I bought the case, the LSWHP was the best proven technology from the snub. I will probably be out of those within the next six months, so I’m very interested in the comparable Buffalo Bore offering.
     
  20. DawgFvr

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    Corbon DPX + P

    Don't leave home without them!
     
  21. MassMark

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    Speer GDHP 135gr +P

    I carry this round for a few of reasons. First, I read the entire 642Club thread, (recommended reading even for those who do not carry a 642). Secondly, trial. I tend to buy a batch of assorted ammunition when I first get a gun - especially a carry weapon. I shoot a lot and evaluate what has the best feel, (accuracy, recoil, hit probability, stopping probability) - not necessarily in that order. I then do some reading and research and make my decision.

    In this case, I found the 135gr GDHP to be just the ticket. I would however be lying if I didn't mention one other variable - cost. I found a deal on 1,000 rounds for an incredibly low price (about .25 a round). It will be nice being able to affordably train with the ammo I'm carrying....
     
  22. TonyB

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    135 gr gold dots for me....642...but I also have some 158 nyclads hanging around too...but mostly the 135's.
     
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    That one, made using Hornady cast bullets, mixed brass, Fed primers.
     
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    My .38 is a indoor/house gun. Glaser Blue Tips.
     
  25. Jim March

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    Speer 135+P for now. I want to try the new standard pressure Buffbores as soon as possible, the 150s and 158s.
     
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