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What silencer do the SEALs use?

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by JustinJ, Nov 5, 2012.

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  1. JustinJ

    JustinJ Member

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    I was flipping through the book, No Easy Day, about the killing of Bin Laden. There were pictures of the weapons used and I was wondering what can they used as one was pictured on an M4 shorty. How about other special forces? What about other calibers?
     
  2. TCBPATRIOT

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    I had a YHM for my mk12 when I went to the 'stan in 09. Most of the cans in the supply system were open purchase items so it really just depends on the unit.
     
  3. creeper1956

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    Although what type of equipment SEALs use is based on the mission requirements, and they can choose to use just about anything they want... the best place to start would be to research what suppressors have (NSN) National Stock Numbers, as those would be a likely starting point.

    You might also try your question at navyseals.com. There are a few there who seem to be quite knowledgeable regarding gear, mission tactics, BUDS/UDTR training and so on. Be advised that the sight is open to one and all, not operated by the Navy... so assume a high level of "faux seal".

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  4. crazy-mp

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    SEAL's operate under SOCOM, meaning they do not use standard issue gear, weapons or tactics. Like one of the earlier post states much is mission specific and based on what each member of the team prefers. There is no way of knowing exactly what model suppressor is used on a day to day basis, or even if that model is being offered to the general public. I highly doubt that some of the big companies like AAC are send the exact same suppressors to the NAVY SEAL's that they send to local dealers.

    Actually I know for a fact they are not, most of the weapons manufacturers have to sign agreements with the government that they will not make the same gun for civilian sales that the military is using, ever wondered why there is no semi auto MP5's made by H&K, or why there are no M240B's being sold by FN?

    The military also buys suppressors with different criteria in mind than civilian customers, sound reduction is typically lower on the list, POI change, flash elimination or reduction, weight, durability (how many times can it be dropped and still work).

    The NSN number search will tell you contracts have been awarded to Gemtech, AAC, Knights Armament, Ops Inc, Smith Enterprises and Surefire.

    You also have to remember one other thing when talking about government contracts, they are awarded to the lowest bidder, and lowest bidder does not always mean best for your money.
     
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    I just read the book and was wondering the same thing lol. Ill have to scan the pic and zoom in....
     
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    A good bit of the suppressors in the military are open purchase meaning commercial off the shelf. But there are about 25 Nato Stock Numbers them
     
  7. Jeff White

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    There was an HK produced semi-auto MP5, it was marketed as the HK94. The executive order Bush I signed banning the import of so-called semi-automatic assault weapons made it economically nonviable. The MP5 was in the inventory in 1989 when the executive order was issued.
     
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    I have no idea what the SEAL's use but I do know that the unit I was in issued Knight's Armament or SureFire suppressors to the Marines in the CQB platoon that had M-4s.
     
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    Somebody email Mark Owen and ask him lol
     
  10. crazy-mp

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    Yes, and H&K also built a factory in Georgia to build them here as a semi auto version, and the military awarded H&K a contract for undefined number of firearms with a unspecified end date.

    Part of the deal was they could not make civilian versions of the weapons they were making for the military.
     
  11. Jeff White

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    Got a contract number. I think the plant was for the ill fated XM8 and the factory met the same fate as the XM8, it never happened.

    As far as I know HK produces nothing for the US military in any quantity.
     
  12. The Grand Baboon

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    I don't want to talk out of my ass, but the suppressor on the HK-416 (second full page of pictures) looks like an AAC M4-2000 painted in AOR1.

    Edit: It looks like the suppressor on the MP7 is the one produced by HK specifically for the MP7.
     
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    Read the book too. He also states that when it comes to weapons the armorers will pretty much put together or build anything he asked for. I'd imagine that would include silencers.
     
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    That's the impression that I got. He had access to most any weapon that he would have liked it seemed, so I would guess the same could be said for suppressors.
     
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    I guess that XM320 that is replacing the M203 grenade launcher is not a quantity contract? It was only for 29 Million,

    Or...

    The 23.6 Million dollar contract for the IAR

    Or...

    The 23.7 Million dollar contract (largest ever awarded) for handguns, but in all honesty this contract is for several branches of the government, not one specific one. Everybody who falls under department of homeland security.
     
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    NO MP5s have ever been manufactured by HK in the U.S. The Georgia facility does not manufacture anything. It is more of a Hub so to speak, everything inbound from Germany stops there first then is sent off to it's respective customer.
    Actually no, try the NFA, as well as other B.S. laws, executive orders, etc. That is why you have no MP5's M240's etc.
     
  17. JustinJ

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    HK manufactures the MR556, MR762 and HK45 at the Georgia factory.
     
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    They use different one's for specifice duty requirements.... but for the sake of argument see about getting a Knights Armament.
     
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    As of a year or two ago there was a semi-auto belt-fed M240 available for the cool cost of $10,000. I believe it was offered by SOG.
     
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    How is it possible to fit a YHM can on a Mk12 mod1/2 upper when all the contracted Crane Mk12 SPRs use a Douglas barrel blank machined by Compass Lake Engineering specifically to utilize a unique profile that only works with the Ops Inc Model 12th reflex suppressor and collar indexing system?
     
  21. The Grand Baboon

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    It's to take advantage of the space time warp capabilities of the double top secret feature of the Mk12's custom built flux generator powered by a 9V battery from Wal-Mart.

    In all seriousness, he's BTDT, just take his word for it.
     
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    Nope, NOTHING is manufactured at the Georgia facility. Those weapons are manufactured in New Hampshire.
     
  23. JustinJ

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    My bad. The press release about manufacture of those guns starts "Columbus, Georgia" which must just be as an indicator of where the release was generated.
     
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    And a friend in the 2nd bat 75th who finished his tours with all fingers and toes still insists a .50BMG passing by your head will suck out your brains.
     
  25. crazy-mp

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    Ohio Ordinance still makes it, closer to 14K. Not original FN.

    http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Firearms/OOWExclusiveFirearms/M240_SLR.rif

    There are a handful or transferable 240B's out there, but they are quite a bit higher than the semi-auto version ;)
     
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