What size target can you reliably hit at 30 yards?

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At 30 yards, I can print one hole groups with my Desert Eagle, though they will be the size of a quarter by the end of the magazine VS a dime at 10 meters.
At 300, I can hit usually 6-7 out of 8 shots with my CZ-52. Haven't tried my 10mm Beretta but I imagine I can do even better with the Double Tap 135gr JHPs.
That's all when I am tuned in. Right now, I have made it to the range 3 times in the last 2 years, so I am inevitably rusty and not nearly that good at the moment.
 
I can usually put 5 of 5 into the torso of a man sized silhouette with my Ruger P97DC. I can scare the silhouette real good with my Keltec P11. At that range, my slingshot is more accurate that the Keltec.

I sit in my swivel chair in the living room with the slingshot and shoot dried chickpeas at the possums and raccoons coming in through the cat door in the kitchen...
 
With a 1911 I could most likely shoot an 12" by 12" piece of paper at 30 yards pretty consistently.

It would probably have be 15" x 15" or so before I'd be super confident with most other pistols at 30 yards. And the shots would have to be slowly fired. I don't usually train past about 15 yards with pistols unless I'm just goofing around. I'm no Rob Leatham or Todd Jarrett but I try my best and practice about once a week.
 
At 30 yards, I can print one hole groups with my Desert Eagle, though they will be the size of a quarter by the end of the magazine VS a dime at 10 meters.

Are you saying you can make all rounds touch at 30 yards? I'm not trying to call you out or say you're a liar. I'm just clarifying because that is something I've never seen before. I honestly don't think I could make every single round touch each other on a target at 5 yards. Again I'm not saying you can't do it, I'm just saying that is really good shooting if that's what you're refering too.
 
Depends

I can do ten for ten on a Frisbee at 30 yards, using a Ruger MkII, and keep most of them within an eight-inch centered circle.

I can do a six-inch circle at 20 yards, and a four-inch circle at 15.

Here's a four-inch circle at 15
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I'm not so good with my 9mm or 40 S&W. It's not the gun.

Bob Smith of FRGC demonstrated that my Taurus 911 (9mm) will do two inches at 15 yards.

Me? I can do minute of Frisbee at 30, but not all of them will land on target.

It's funny, I don't flinch with the .22, but I push my shots down with the 9mm and worse with the .40 S&W.

Need more range time and some decent instruction.
 

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I shoot at a local sandpit and measure 25 yards off with a tape. I can hit better with my MK II than with my Model 10.

With the MK II I shoot at pieces of clay birds that others have left. I find that the smaller the target, the more concentration I have on it. I can shoot some really tiny pieces of clay bird, whereas if I have a target in front of me...they are all over the paper.

With the Model 10 I can put them all in a 14" X 20" cardboard pretty easily. (That is the size of my upper torso.)
 
There's a lot of "it depends" to answering this question.
First, yes I can see a target at 30 yards, though not nearly as clearly as when I was younger <sigh>.

Secondly it depends on the gun. Like JWarren said earlier I also have a Ruger Security Six .357 magnum with 6" barrel and the sweetest trigger you can imagine. If I'm going slowly and having a good day I can make pretty consistent 4"-5" groups standing and shooting single handed. (I actually tend to shoot revolvers better single handed than two handed for whatever reason). I can get similar results with my CZ-75b and my SIG 229.

Thirdly it also depends on what "style" I'm shooting. If I'm taking my time and shooting "competition" style I get pretty good groups. On the other hand if I'm shooting "self defense" style things usually open up quite a bit though at 30 yards I've still successfully made a can dance with 9 out of 12 shots on a fairly regular basis.

We won't talk about the bad days <grin>.
 
Are you saying you can make all rounds touch at 30 yards? I'm not trying to call you out or say you're a liar. I'm just clarifying because that is something I've never seen before. I honestly don't think I could make every single round touch each other on a target at 5 yards. Again I'm not saying you can't do it, I'm just saying that is really good shooting if that's what you're refering too.

Provided I am making frequent shooting trips, yes I can do that. Only with my Desert Eagle though. It's funny, I keep hearing about how bad they are for accuracy but I think that's one of the few good things about it. I use Miwall standard 240gr JHPs, have it sighted in for them and the gun is tuned up to a smooth recoil and has a crisp trigger.

I actually gave the 30 yard idea a shot one time about 3 years ago. After 8 rounds, the hole in the bullseye looked very similar to what those star targets at carnivals usually look like after 100 rounds of bbs in full auto are put through them. Just a rough hole in the bullseye roughly the size of a quarter or 50 cent piece.
With my .22LR pistol, I average a 7 inch to 1 foot group at that range, about the same with the CZ and the rest are a little wider (about a foot to 14 inches) at that range, though I don't think I have ever fired my 9mm at that range while trying to get some good accuracy and never checked the accuracy of my 10mm past maybe 25 yards. I wasn't aiming very carefully but the ammo was hitting very tightly in the area that I was aiming without elevation issues.
The Desert Eagle at 30 yards wasn't actually that hard. After 150 or so rounds over a month or 2 period, it becomes pretty easy to get consistent control over recoil and I only had to aim a line above the target. The really hard one was the CZ-52 at 300 yards because a 3 foot target at that range is only a little larger in the sight picture then a 2 inch bullseye at 30 (both of which are much smaller then the front sight) but with the CZ, you have to aim more then a head height above the target if you want to hit it. The Desert Eagle drops a story at that range making it harder to hit with then the CZ even though it's much better then the CZ at closer ranges.
 
Off hand slow fire? Six inches, maybe better with a longer barrel and finer sights. Best one was my Colt PPS.

At 30 yards, I can print one hole groups with my Desert Eagle, though they will be the size of a quarter by the end of the magazine VS a dime at 10 meters.

An UNSUPPORTED Deagle off hand? With that big .44 those are excellent groups. You should go into competition shooting if you can do that reliably.
 
It depends.

With my XD45-LE about 4". With my Bersa .380, about 6". With my Taurus PT-138, if the berm is at 30 yards I might be able to hit the berm 8 times out of 10, but that's pushing it.
 
small gatorade bottle with everything in my inventory.
Mosins, 91/30-m44, mauser, sks, cz52, various .22s.

30 yards isn't that far.

With a rifle, I would agree that 30 yards isn't too far. With a handgun, for me 30 yards is a pretty good distance. especially unsupported.
 
Mas Ayoob

I've not had the privilege of watching him shoot, but I received 15 minutes of example and advice from one of his students and associate instructors, Bob Smith.

Bob took my Taurus 911, a gun he'd never shot before, to help me figure out what I was doing wrong, and proceeded to place most of a magazine in a two-inch circle at 15 yards.

A 9mm pistol he'd never handled, two-inch groups.

At the end of 15 minutes of watching me and testing the gun, he gave me some advice and announced, "nice gun!"

Mas consistently wins and places well in competitions.

He's also been there, done that and, hey, who knows, since he's a member of the High Road himself, maybe we can coax him into giving us a word on groups.

I have trouble getting him to brag on himself, but maybe we can get him to make an exception.

Mas?
 
I only have one target pic in my Photobucket album.

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This was shot two-hand standing on an indoor 25 yd range.
The black is 1 7/8" in diameter.
 
Well, 30 yards is 90 ft, I guess I could hit an 8.5X11 paper at about 100 yards with my FEG P9R, but I haven't tried that short of a distance. No scope. When I go to sight in my hunting rifle / teach the wife to shoot, Ill see if I can get a pic of the .9mm.
 
I'm pretty sure that I can hit a B27 target at 30 yards pretty consistently with a 1911. How big of a group? Center of mass, but probably not a very small grouping. The only other "distance" shots I've taken with a pistol were steel animal silhouettes like pigs and deer at 75 yards with a .44 magnum. I can hit them pretty reliably. But I've never really tried to shoot small targets like a soda can or a grapefruit or something at any kind of distance with a handgun.
 
I'm sure I could hit a softball fairly consistently. I have gotten a little more shaky as the years roll by. They tell me more practice will actually cure this. I need to do more shooting.
 
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