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What Small Pistol Primers Are Best?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by 816ronp, Apr 19, 2009.

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  1. 816ronp

    816ronp Member

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    So far I have only used CCI-500 primmers. Been having problems lately finding them. Found a source for Federal Small Pistol Primmers and they are cheaper. What do you guys think of federal? My Lee primer tool says to avoid Federal. What are some of your favorite primmers and why?
     
  2. lesterg3

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    I like Winchester, but in today's market I buy anything I can get my hands on.
     
  3. Walkalong

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    They all work fine. I have CCI, Federal, and Winchester on the shelf right now.
     
  4. Deer Hunter

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    I like Wolf. Cheap and works well.
     
  5. Smokey Joe

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    SP Primers...

    I reload for my bullseye competitive shooting. Use a .357 Mag loaded to .38 Spl levels, with 148 grain double-ended wadcutter bullets.

    Have experimented extensively with different brands of primer for doing this loading. Have not seen any discernible difference in accuracy, performance, cleanliness of burning, recoil, or any other factor, when brand of primers is change.

    Brands of primer used: Federal, Winchester, Remington, CCI. Have a box of Magtech primers on my bench that I've not opened yet--expect the results with them to be the same.

    Now, these are low-pressure target loads to be sure. OTOH, because they are target loads, the results when using them are scrutinized thoroughly.

    With higher-pressure loads there might be more of a difference.

    Bottom line: With my target loads, it doesn't matter what brand of primers I use. The results are all the same.

    YMMV
     
  6. Ben Shepherd

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    I use federals almost exclusively, and have been very satisfied with their preformance.

    The reason your tool says to avoid them has to do with them being fairly soft. If one seats them with gusto, they could detonate.

    With that in mind, I have loaded litterally a few hundred thousand of them on a dillon 650 with no issues at all. But I also may run my machine with less speed and more care than most folks do, as I usually run about 600 rounds per hour rather than the 800-1000 per hour that it's supposedly capable of. If I wanted to load fast and sloppy, I have no doubt I could hit 800 per hour easily.
     
  7. EHL

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    Ignore that little swipe at Federal that Richard Lee put in his book and his instructions. I've used Winchester, Federal, and CCI for thousands and thousands of rounds and I've never had one issue. There was another thread a while ago about this same "warning" from LEE. Total BS about Federal making primers likely to go boom while reloading.
     
  8. sig2009

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    The cheapest!!!!
     
  9. Landric

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    I've used CCI, Federal, Remington, and Winchester. I have a bunch of Wolf I got recently, but I haven't tried them yet. I expect them to be just as good.

    My preference is for CCI, Federal, or Winchester all things being equal. However, I generally just buy whatever is available, and if more than one kind is available I buy the cheapest.
     
  10. pbratton

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    Nowadays, any brand you can get your hands on are the best.
     
  11. JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone

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    I do tend to stay way from Remington primers though. Not to say that I won't buy them, I would, and then use them as trading stock.

    I've been shooting Federals, Winchesters and CCI's for years. CCI's are known for being the hardest, and Federals are known for being the tightest to get into a primer pocket. Many progressive reloaders shy away from the Fed's.

    -Steve
     
  12. Yo2slick

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    Kinnda funny that other people have had problems with Federal primers but that must not be true because Richard Lee has poisoned their minds. I wont use Federal primers because I believe them to have softer cups and not just because Richard Lee told me.
     
  13. ArchAngelCD

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    I used CCI primers for many years. I'm currently using Winchester primers.

    I've used Winchester, Federal, Remington, Magtech, CCI and Wolf primers, all went bang every time. Like I said, I prefer Winchester but like said above, use what you can get these days...
     
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    Federals shouldn't be used in progressives like Dillon and Hornady.
     
  15. Walkalong

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    Millions of Federal primers have been loaded in progressives. Jeeez.....
     
  16. The Bushmaster

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    What ever I can find at today's [reasonable?] prices.
     
  17. JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone

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    I can't tell you how many thousands of Federal primers have gone through my Dillon 450 and my Lee Auto-Prime. Never once had an issue.
    Speer Nickel brass and Federals running through a Star reloader isn't the best of combinations though. Never a K'boom, just a primer that won't seat once in a while. Slightly large primers and tight pockets don't mix.

    -Steve
     
  18. Redneck with a 40

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    I'm sitting on 2 cases of wolf primers, they work great and the price is right. If I could find some large rifle wolf primers, I'd buy a case.
     
  19. D. Manley

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    I think that warning caveat from Richard Lee has taken root. ;)

    Federal is my 1st choice followed by Winchester and Wolf.
     
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    I have using Mag-tech for about 5000 rounds of 9mm and 45acp now with good results now. I am looking for 5000 each more small and large pistol.
     
  21. zxcvbob

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    Federals are my favorite. Wolf is very good. Avoid Remingtons unless you have a lot of RP brass (they are too tight in other brands )

    Basically, anything you can get right now.
     
  22. ArchAngelCD

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    You and about a Million other reloaders!! LOL
     
  23. MasterReloader

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    Federal!!!!
     
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    I shoot Federals in my GP-100. My lightened springs like them better. In everything else I shoot CCI. I've had good luck with Winchesters as well.
     
  25. Ol` Joe

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    Federal primers are not "softer" then other Brands.
    They use a different compound then Winchester, CCI, ect that is more "sensitive" to impact and pressure then other brands. They also use a different packaging to help prevent mass ignition during transit because of this.
    There is a valid reason behind Lees warning. I don`t believe it means we shouldn`t use them, just that we should be aware of the make-up of them and exercise due care when useing. I have been a big fan of Federal small rifle match, and LP primers for years, and have never had a problem with them. And yes, I use a Lee hand tool to seat them.
     
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