Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Rule3, Aug 31, 2021.
Is that the crème de la crème of tumblers?
Oh! That’s so cute! Look at that little guy!
9 inch long rollers? Aww, that will fit even a medium sized peanut butter jar, maybe.
These rollers are 22” long and one inch thick.
I can sit on them, and if I would fit in the can, it could spin me.
Way less than a thousand dollars, too. Less than $200 actually…
I started out hand cleaning cases. Next was an ultrasonic cleaner.
I finally got a vibrating tumbler and dry tumbled for the next 20 years or so. I added a wet tumbler and really like the results but prcessing the cases and pins is a pain.
For wet tumbling, I have enough cases that I can process and dry cases and still have other clean cases ready to reload.
I still do mostly dry tumbling. Shiny enough to keep me happy and makes me feel good about my reloads.
So, use the case cleaning method that floats your boat.
It's not about "the size" it is all about how much money is spent. They have huge industrial ones. Money is no object.
When you care enough to to clean the best!
20 years ago I borrowed a small cement mixer designed for small patches of plaster. The drum/container would hold about 10 gallons of product. At the time I got ground walnut in 40 pound bags for industrial use. I put a 5 gallon bucket of walnut in the drum and 2.5 gallons of brass after 2 hours the brass was spotless.
Since then I moved and no longer have access to the mixer but I've considered buying my own.
But instead I've gotten two additional vibratory cleaners for a total of 4! One, the bottom bearing is worn out and noisy! I usually only clean brass a couple of times a year but 3 cleaners will run 3-4 hours at a time. I'll end up with [email protected] 5 gallon buckets of clean brass, .223, 30-06, 9mm, 45acp, 44 mag, 357mag and 38 spl.
Due to arthritis I've retired from competition and shoot way less than a few years ago!
Shoot more clean less!
I'm on the same batch of media I bought in 1996, granted it was a 40# bag of ground corn cobs and I just keep adding new stuff to the tumbler. Also have a 4 year old batch of Lizard Bedding from WalMart. Used drier sheet removes the trash while tumbling brass.
Something I've always wondered, but didn't ask is "what purpose does pristine, glossy primer pocket or case interiors serve?". I understand the satasfaction (ego) factor but having been reloading fo 40 years, about 18 different calibers and rarely even cleaning a primer pocket and never cleaned a case interior, what's the reasoning? I like all aspects of reloading so a bit of extra work/fuss wouldn't bother me if there is an authentic reason for a process...
For me I’m pretty sure it’s not ego but it might be pride (not to be confused with prideful). Polishing shoes comes to mind as being similar. Neither are necessary but both look sharp and you know the old saying: look sharp, act sharp, be sharp.
Clean primer pockets are easier to get primers to seat below flush in.
It gives finer feedback back and saves finger knuckle strain while using a hand primer more than anything else.
Not condemning those that wet tumble, just my experience and gathering info...
Doesn't do diddly.
Once, At Band Camp, I deprimed 100, 357 mag cases. Then used a primer pocket cleaner over a piece of fine linen paper. The amount of debris (or lack of) showed little to nothing. Simply not worth it. Inside of case cleaning is like trying to remove the carbon ring on the outside of a revolver cylinder. It is just gonna get fouled again. It doesn't make the powder burn any better.
There is clean enough and then there is OCD clean!. I clean my brass, 2 hrs in a vibrator with fresh media (change it often) is good enough, It shines.
So you’ve never heard of this in the last 41 years?
Pardon my disbelief. I can’t possibly be the first to not have potato farmer hands.
Despite its perceived necessity or not, I clean my belly button too!
My Thumblers Tumbler was one of the most worthwhile purchases to me, right up there with my presses and my 3D printer. No more poisonous dust to breath, 1/3 of the time needed to polish as my dry tumblers, and 5 minutes of cleanup work....sure beats what I used to have to do to make pickup or military brass look presentable. You think that's OCD, keep breathing the dust, still somewhat a free country.
And water spots? Never seen one......maybe it's the old eyes.....
In nice weather, I'll dry them outside. In winter, by the fireplace. When I'm in a rush, I'll dry them in the toaster oven that I use to powder coat cast bullets.
My dry tumbler doesn't do nearly the job, even with walnut media. It's also a pain to sift and tap out all the tumbling media, doubly so to pick it out of the flash holes. I also only dump the media outside so I'm not breathing or spreading all that fine airborne media and residual lead dust through the house. I still use it though when I want clean and load brass immediately.
to take the 3 + - seconds it takes to run
a cheap tool like a Lee primer pocket
cleaner in a case, or to closely visually
inspect the flash hole and interior of each
case. Of course, there's no hard and fast
rules about case preparation, or we wouldn't
even be commenting on the topic because
it would have never been posted
My progressives have an adjustable depth stop on the primer seat rod. That means if you want smooth sailing you want to use that Trim Mate to also uniform primer pocket depth, so the stop will seat every case the same depth. That said, I don't at all mind not having to clean the pockets too. For me wet tumbling is worthwhile for that alone.
I like the eye candy to be sure, but it's not without other merits. Probably the only drawback to wet is it can be too clean and require the best lube you can find.....not imperial in my experience....which I used to prefer. (really referring to sizing hard brass like MG LC 7.62)
I've been meaning to try a 10 minute dry tumble in clean corncob on a wet tumbled batch in a vibrator just to add the corncob's dry lube effect to the batch....but probably doesn't make sense if you are loading rifle.....pistol might benefit if you are used to sizing that without lube in carbide dies.
Your velocity is too high. All of the brass will be thrown out to the outer edge and stay there, till you stop. Once you start off again the process repeats.
not if you live in stop go traffic cities
As I mostly load black powder I pretty much restrain myself to throwing the empties in a mason jar with water and some dish soap.
Shiny brass does serve one very good purpose at least though. It’s somewhat easier to find it in grass compared to dull, tarnished brass that tends to blend in.
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