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What the 30-30 is good for in Africa??

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by saturno_v, Mar 1, 2010.

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  1. saturno_v

    saturno_v Member

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    I heard of sporadic cases of locals using them for wildlife defence (cats I assume)..any rifle is better than nothing....it beats a spear...:D

    But what the good old 30 WCF is really good/adequate for in the dark continent??

    Regards
     
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  2. R.W.Dale

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    you know, you and Blackops should get together and compare notes sometime.
     
  3. interlock

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    maybe knocking in tent stakes?
     
  4. saturno_v

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    There is not any animal similar to our whitetail that can be hunted at relatively short range?
     
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  5. Marlin 45 carbine

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    never been to africa but I'll say that with the right slug and good placement just about any of the grass-eaters under 500lbs or so within 150yds or so.
    even the mighty cape buffalo would fall from a good-placed heart shot or base of skull/neck juncture.
     
  6. X-Rap

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    Maybe suicide?

    I'm sure it would be fine for some of the smaller plains critters and if hard pressed we all know what it will do, I don't think I would haul one over there for a safari though.
     
  7. Ed Harris

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    Should work on anything they use AKs for.
     
  8. ArmedBear

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    The dik-dik is an animal similar in size to whitetails I've seen in some pictures. The .30-30 should work well, except that you need a rifle that is very flat-shooting. +/- 3" MPBR won't do, because you can easily miss it altogether.
     
  9. LEVRLOVR

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    The DIK-DIK weighs under 20lbs or so I believe.

    The 30-30 I would speculate would take just about all of it pretty routinely if you were up to the challenge.

    Except for maybe the "Big Five" dangerous stuff of course.

    And I might add, I would use it on at least one of those.
     
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  10. t george

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    gazell?
     
  11. paintballdude902

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    pretty much anything except the big 5
     
  12. Old Shooter

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    Yeah, your gun bearer carries it and if you miss the charging elephant with your english double rifle he shoots you!
     
  13. bad_aim_billy

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    I would say for Lion and Cape buffalo, you'd want 150 grain corelokt. For Elephant and Rhino, I'd step up to the 160 grain Leverevolution, should knock em' dead.
     
  14. gunsandreligion

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    That what the red ryder's for:D
     
  15. ArmedBear

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    That's true.

    So do some whitetails I see in pictures.:D
     
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    Eventually.
     
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    I would say it would do the job on most plains game, but if I was to shell out that much $ to go to Africa I'd take something with a little more thump that Granddad's 30-30.
     
  18. ArmedBear

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    Plains are flat and open. That's why they're plains.:)

    The .30-30 isn't exactly the rifle of choice for antelope in Idaho. It wouldn't be the rifle of choice for antelope in Africa, either.
     
  19. T.R.

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    The time proven medium velocity 170 grain flat nose bullet does not bounce off large animals despite the so-called wisdom of critics. My bullets crashed through ribs, thick hide, and chest organs and kept on going to vanish into the hillside beyond. You can't possibly get better penetration than 100%.

    Watch your distance and wait patiently for a broadside shot. 30-30 will do its part if you do yours.

    Good hunting to you.

    TR
     
  20. saturno_v

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    Impressive shot for sure!! I"m a big 30-30 fan (and owner of a Marlin 336)

    Distance???
     
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    If the 30-30 is good enough for an elk, I don't see why you couldn't use it on many animals in Africa. This one was 125 yds, can't say I got 100% penetration, but he didn't run much more than 50 yards.

    That said, I wouldn't take my 30-30 on a hunt in Africa. If spending that much cash, I want to take a gun that has enough punch to take any of the plains game out past 300 yds if the shot were to present itself.

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  22. The Bushmaster

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    I have a rather old Winchester .30 WCF (62 yrs old). I have taken Elk with it. But...Put your .30-30 back into the gun cabinet or safe and take at least the .30-06...
     
  23. desidog

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    I filled both my doe tags in 04 with a 336 levergun- they lined up, and i shot....second one had the bullet in her further lung....that's what, 150-175% penetration?
     
  24. H&Hhunter

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    In plains game areas especially in the bosfeldt ( thick bush country) the .30-30 is quite useful. There has been many a kudu on down to a diker smoked with a good old M-94 with a crusty old Boer farmer on the back end of the handle. I am sure there has even been the occasional Eland and buffalo killed with one.

    If you were to read Wally Johnson's biography "The last Ivory Hunter" you see that he started his hunting career shooting lions on control for a local beef rancher with his .30-30 though he admits that he had no idea what he was doing at the time and that using a .30-30 on African lion is quite a fool hardy undertaking.

    You guys have to understand that not all of African hunting includes dangerous game.
     
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    Nothing, but target practice.
     
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