What to do with this ammo?

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  1. Scooter22

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    I have a full box that I got way back and found out you can,t shoot it in standard guns. Just resurfaced. So sell or trade it as a collectable? Or can I pull it down to use the primed cases and reload it? TIA
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  2. tark

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    Define training ammo. Wooden bullets? Low powered? Blanks? Why can't it be shot in regular guns? And if that is true, what good is it? Training ammo that can't be shot in regular guns is kind of a worthless commodity. If they are blanks, many countries, including the U.S. use defective and/or rejected cases not suitable for loading full powered ammo
     
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    Plastic bullet with a steel ball in front.
    I have used them in a ruger blackhawk, not that accurate.
    Might be good for malfunction drills.
    They fire but won't cycle and the sealant around the bullet builds up in chamber.
     
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  4. Scooter22

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    Sorry. It has a plastic frangible case bullet with a hard metal sub caliber BB in side. It was made for practice with sub machine guns that had a training barrel fitted. That was not in the original sales ad. Many bought it and damaged their barrels using it. The BB dinged up the rifling Luckily I never tried it in my Marlin Camp 9. I recently purchased a Ruger PC9 so now I need some 9mm. I have the components so I thought all those cases might be useful. If this stuff is collectable I,d just sell it instead of wasting it. Thats what I,m trying to figure out.
     
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    See if you can pull a bullet if so resize trade bullet and new powder.
     
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    The couple boxes I shot through the blackhawk the plastic and bb stayed together from the size of holes it made in the tree.
     
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    Ok I was bored so the bakelite looking plastic bullet is a hollow base. It snaps off if you squeeze it with a collet puller.
    So press the bullet in slightly to break the seal. Snap the tip off with your preferred method dump the powder out through the hole in slug. Drill out the hole large enough I can get my custom made j hook through the hole. Then raise it in press and use pliers on end of hook to pull the bullet out. You now have a berdan primed empty case.
    Lotta work but primers are kinda high.
    Or shoot them through a cheap gun and make sure the barrel is clear in case a piece of plastic gets stuck before going back to regular ammo.
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    Thanks! :thumbup: Not worth the trouble yet.
     
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    Maybe try your hand at hunting squirrel with it. Idk maybe unload it at a gun show.
     
  10. D.B. Cooper

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    Asked and answered right there. Primers are too scarce/too valuable to throw them away. The ammo itself is of no use or value.

    If you knew what the powder was, the age of it, storage history, etc., you might reuse it, but otherwise...I'm thinking KY Ballistics "stick a thumb in it" on that idea.

    Even with the salvaged primers, you run the risk of hang fires, partial ignition, squibs, etc. In fact, I would fire some in empty cases and see what your failure rate is.
     
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  11. Remington1911

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    You might try over on gunboards, those guys are a bit more in tune with collectables over there....they have an ammo sub section.

    My worry would be is the brass any different? Thinner or even a different material makeup. Would a "real" 9mm end up busting up the case with some bad results.
     
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  12. Scout21

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    Sell or trade it. It may not be enjoyable to you, but I'm sure there's someone out there that would love to have it. Like you, I prefer ammo that I can shoot. I'd imagine you could at least get an equivalent amount of shootable ammo for it.
     
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    I planned on shooting it until I found out it can damage the bore with the steel BB hitting the rifleing. It,s been buried under other stuff since. I'll sit on it for now and check out Gunboards. If a collector wants it fine but I,d never sell it as shootable to someone and have them damage their gun. My son and I found a good deal on 9mm and have a case on the way to split. That should hold me. Thanks for the replies.:thumbup:
     
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    If you find that guy, send me his contact info; I've got a bridge in Brooklyn and some fantastic ocean front property in Arizona for sale.
     
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    I'd think an equivalent amount of 9mm would be a reasonable trade to a collector. Granted, that's assuming this stuff is relatively uncommon. Do we know how rare it is?
     
  16. buck460XVR

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    I would go the collectable route. With the wooden box it may have some display appeal. Anything you get is better than nuttin'. The process described to save the brass seems way to tedious to me considering the relative low cost of cheap 9mm range fodder.
     
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    There are several auctions sites that have or had it listed. One shows a case sold for $200
    Good luck, I certainly would not mess with it to try and reload .Who knows if the Berdan primer is corrosive. To much work
     
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    Somebody's gonna want it. Don't destroy it.
     
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    I'd probably try to sell it to a collector with full disclosure.
     
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    How about the London Bridge in Arizona london bridge 3.JPG , USA?
    Yep...it is real
     
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    Generally swede ammo is berdan primed and is non corrosive. The headstamp 070 was a code for noma brass made in 1976 for the 6.5X55 ammo(pryke) that I have. That seems like good pistol brass. It could be a lesser quality also, but I doubt it. Way too much work to pull down
     
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    Lake Havasu City. I used to live there.

    Great lake for water skiing and fishing.

    Lots of places to shoot within just a few miles of the lake, too
     
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    Doesn't sound like much use for shooting. There are cartridge collectors who might be interested. Worth a query.
     
  24. Howland937

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    I'd be tempted to try a kinetic hammer and see if I could get a few broken down... then possibly sacrifice those primed cases to take some measurements of the brass. I wouldn't consider pulling them all down unless I was convinced that the brass was safe to reload. If it checks out, use it since it's already there. If not, pursue selling the rest then.
     
  25. shoobe01

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    +1000 to all those saying sell it. Don't destroy weird ammo without at least trying to get it to people who want it, or collect it.

    Offer an individual box or two on GB or somewhere, with detailed descriptions and all buzzwords, see what happens. If it doesn't sell or goes cheap then it's worthless. But it may be worth a lot.

    People do snap up the plastic rifle training ammo, so I bet someone will want this weird stuff, and the weirder the better for ammo collectors.
     
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