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What U.S. immigrant groups are most likely to own guns?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MatthewVanitas, Oct 7, 2005.

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  1. MatthewVanitas

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    In the past, we've touched on the firearm attitudes of various groups of immigrants in the U.S. (Hmong, Sikhs, etc.)

    Speaking in generalities, what ethnic/cultural groups are most likely to own firearms? What type, and why?

    A Vietnamese friend told me that a lot of folks in his community buy AKs and SKSs, presumably out of a mistrust for central authority, and in some cases past familiarity with the CommBloc weapons.

    I've heard of Sikhs who own firearms as a logical extension of the kirpan. (The Kirpan is a ceremonial knife that members of the Sikh religion are required to carry with them at all times). However, I've also seen Sikh websites argue that the kirpan is not a weapon, and that firearms are not an appropriate substitute.

    That's the limit of my current knowledge, but I'd welcome any input from the assembly. And if you have any comments on groups _least_ likely to own firearms, that would also be interesting.

    -MV
     
  2. JohnBT

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    The Scots-Irish have a long history of gun ownership in this country.

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  3. Biker

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    I've heard that MS 13 has a pretty good collection. ;)
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    My Mexican co-worker is looking at a SAA, today in fact.

    Which is stereotypical, but he doesn't care. (I'm trying to get him to buy some bandoleros too)

    :D
     
  5. jeff-10

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    Cubans in Miami are known for there gun ownership. Maybe they dream they will have chance to use them on Fidel.
     
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    I've always been surprised that the crowd at the Syracuse, NY gun show is almost uniformly white. Maybe it only attracts a certain slice of the gun buying population, with the other folks preferring to shop in gun stores, or Walmart, or on-line.

    I'm sure the BATF knows, they ask for your race when you fill out their little form. Maybe they make the totals public somewhere? I'd be interested to see it, if they do.
     
  7. MatthewVanitas

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    JohnBT: maybe a century ago newly-arrived Scots-Irish folks bought guns, but I doubt (given the prevailing attitudes in the modern Isles) that said market segment buys many guns these days.

    Being viewed a predominantly "middle-aged white male" interest is certainly not helping the 2nd Amendment cause in this country. Thus it would be interesting to figure out which cultural niches in the U.S. own firearms, particularly for political (vice sporting) reasons.
     
  8. Majic

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    I guess you haven't heard of the IRA.
     
  9. MatthewVanitas

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    Majic: the guys who just put all their guns "beyond use" last month? The guys who blew up Lord Mountbatten, right?

    Are you stating that IRA members/sympathizers who emigrate to the U.S. commonly buy firearms? If so, that's news to me. Not necessarily surprising (do they all buy AR-18 "widowmakers"?), but I still don't think that they constitute any noteable percentage of Irish/North Irish immigrants to the United State.

    So, unless someone can explain otherwise, I'll stick by my assumption that current U.S. immigrants from Ireland and the U.K. do not buy firearms in substantial numbers, but feel free to prove me wrong. -MV
     
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    On the corner near where I work it would appear that most of the gun owners are African-american. There gun of choice is usually a highpoint or some other low end firearm. And according to the local news they know how to use them pretty well. every morning on the local news there is a murder or shooting.....:what:
     
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    Say.....you must work near me! I think I work near that street corner also. Too bad Charlotte has already surpassed last years murder rate earlier this month. About the only time I see a police officer is when they set up "click it or ticket" road blocks !? Yes, crack whores, drugs, break ins, and murder......but Charlottes finest will bust your law-abiding a** if they catch you without your seat belt !! :fire: :cuss:
     
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    thats seems to be the situation in South Florida too :banghead:

    ive noticed some groups of Jamaicans at guns shows and ranges before

    if i had to guess id say western europeans with the exception of the Swiss (my ancestors :D ) are least likly to own firearms.
    i know a lot of people from former communist countries tend to be pro 2nd ammendment
     
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    If Oleg and I any indication, Russkies love guns!
     
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    +1.
    There is a fair amount of Russians and Eastern European where I shoot.
     
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    I am surprised at the posts so far.
    It has been my opinion that the race that absolutely love guns and are very active in sports like IPSC are Filipinos.
    Second, I would say, Mexicans.

    Of course some of this might be influenced by the racial makeup of your community.
     
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    Most of the first generation immigrant groups I have come into contact with have almost universally been open to the ownership of weapons with the singular exception of people from Africa. I have no idea why this is the case but I have known a number of Hispanics, Eastern Europeans, Asians, and Pacific Islanders who have all had a strong interest in learning more about, and purchasing, firearms but i have yet to meet an immigrant from Africa that had anything but fear and disdain for firearms and that is a well represented group in this area.
     
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    I work with a lot of Mexicans and as a group they are VERY fond of firearms. They know first hand how gun control works/fails.
     
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    I would guess any new immigrant no matter what country they came from who is interested in firearms would try the shooting sports. I cannot see where any particular nationality would be more favorable than another? We ourselves have a large born and raised American anti-gun crowd here on our own soil.

    My wife is a Belarussian immigrant who spent 10+ years living in Russia and she could give a hoot less about my firearms. My father in law and both brother in laws (all former Russian Army) who still live in Belarus are more interested in the fishing here! Go figure....... And of course inquiring about when I am going to send over more American visky!
     
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    Ira?

    I lived in Ireland for two years, some of the rural folks hunt but for the most part it's a very anti gun culture.
     
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    um, white guys. all immigrant groups, remember?
     
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    Stauble: "if i had to guess id say western europeans with the exception of the Swiss (my ancestors ) are least likly to own firearms."

    Certainly members of 'The Fifth Switzerland' are the most likely to be affiliated with a formal club and shoot competatively:
    Auslandschweizertag,Eidg. Schützenfest Frauenfeld 05..
    http://frauenfeld05.asvf.ch/thumbnails.php?album=36
     
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    Immigrants are people who have come to one country from another. It doesnt matter if your parents or grand parents made the trip. your only an immigrant if you A) have made this your permament residence and B) were born in another nation.
     
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    I think my Vietnamese neighbors are fairly well armed or they just like green ammo cans. :scrutiny:
     
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    During the LA riots, The media coverage showed Korean store owners who were well armed, protecting their businesses.
     
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    That's interesting. The VNs that I know are very non gun, if not anti gun. The few that are remotely interested are extremely unknowledgeable and refuse to be taught.

    The Cubans and Mexicans I know share a healthy pro gun attitude even if they are not owners, but few are collectors.

    I have never met an Israeli that was not knowledgeable and that didn't own at least one, those that I've gotten know well enough to share this info.

    I used to work pest control in the Bay hill and Isleworth areas where the rich immigrants live and Azalea Park where the poor Hispanic immigrants live and a few years in the Mills Asiantown area.

    From what I have seen the richer they are the less likely they are to adopt our gun attitudes
    The middle class type and small business owners are most likely to own a gun
    The poor seem to have other priorities
     
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