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I average 1:45 on 4x4 with redux and just learnt Yau and am averaging around 2:30 but i only just started. The best strategy is probably to just practice heaps.

I use the GTS2 Since my hands are big but the MGC 4x4 looks extremely good based on testers and stuff, Its 60 mm (same size as the valk 4) so if you want something small but not too small the MGC would be your best bet but I don't have it yet (as soon as TC comes out with pro shop versions ill get it)

Ok, from now on, I'm going to post a05s or ao7s of my 4x4 times
btw i use the mystic gts 2m.

inners are quite slow actually..

1:32.48 D' B' L2 D2 B' U2 F' L2 F2 R2 F2 D2 U2 L' D U' L2 F D B2 Fw2 D2 Rw2 Fw2 R F2 L2 U' Rw2 U' R Fw R L D B' D' F' Uw F2 B' Rw2 Uw' F NEW PB! OLL skip and 2 FREE centers

2:24.89 R U' R' U2 L2 U' B2 U B2 F2 L2 R2 D2 R' B F' U R2 B' D Rw2 D' B Rw2 L2 U' Fw2 B' U2 B' Uw2 F2 U' Rw' R' Fw2 B' Rw' L2 Fw' Uw2 R F' Rw U @2020-05-31 16:16:38

1:50.45 R F' R B2 U2 L R2 U2 F2 R' D2 F2 L' F U' R F' L F2 U Fw2 Rw2 Uw2 L2 U Fw2 L' F2 U' B2 D2 R Fw' Rw2 B' L U D' Uw' Rw F' Uw' Rw' Fw' Rw2

1:44.41 R F' R B2 U2 L R2 U2 F2 R' D2 F2 L' F U' R F' L F2 U Fw2 Rw2 Uw2 L2 U Fw2 L' F2 U' B2 D2 R Fw' Rw2 B' L U D' Uw' Rw F' Uw' Rw' Fw' Rw2

1:52.95 U2 L2 B L2 U2 R2 D2 B' L2 B2 U2 F2 U' B L2 B D L B' F2 Fw2 L Uw2 U' L' U' Rw2 B2 L U Rw2 L Fw' U' Rw2 B2 D B Rw Fw2 L F U2 Fw B2 @2020-06-01 12:29:47

1:47.12 R2 D R' F U' D L B D U2 R' U2 L' B2 U2 F2 U2 R' B2 Uw2 Fw2 B2 D F Rw2 D R2 Uw2 B2 D' F2 D' Rw' D' B U2 F Fw Uw Rw R Fw2 D2 Fw Rw @2020-06-01 12:33:56

2:18.12 F2 U B2 U2 R2 U B2 L2 R2 U2 F' D L2 U' L B D2 U2 L' B' Rw2 Uw2 B' L' F' R' F2 Uw2 L D2 Fw2 Uw' L U2 B' U Fw' Uw2 Rw L Fw' U2 F2 Uw @2020-06-01 12:37:39

1:31.97 B L' U2 D2 R2 F U D R F U2 R2 L2 U2 R2 D2 F L2 F2 R2 D2 Uw2 L2 F Uw2 U2 F Rw2 F Rw2 D Rw2 L Fw2 Rw' R U2 Rw' B2 D2 Fw' U Rw' U Fw L2 @2020-06-01 12:43:03 Solved centers in 14 seconds
a07 = 1:52:40

I don't know if you should listen to me, as I am 1:45 average, but helped drop my time by 45 seconds was not doing the 3 white cross edges and skipping to the 4 other centers. This is for me, but when I work on the 4 middle centers, I always mess up the cross edges, so that's why I just solve all of the edges after I finish the centers.

I don't know if you should listen to me, as I am 1:45 average, but helped drop my time by 45 seconds was not doing the 3 white cross edges and skipping to the 4 other centers. This is for me, but when I work on the 4 middle centers, I always mess up the cross edges, so that's why I just solve all of the edges after I finish the centers.

Stop doing that. Trust me, it's worse than Yau. I did that for a while since it was quicker and when I switched it took a while. It's slower right now since you're not used to it, but please use normal Yau right now, it'll save you a lot of headache in the end.