glockky said:
I just always shyed away from the 40 because of all the kabooms
I have observed several KBs with 40S&W ranging from blown case base and ejected magazine/broken mag release to split barrels and damaged shooting hands. I recommend you not start out with Titegroup as it has narrow load range and can be spikey near the max. Bullseye can work but the recoil impulse is snappier than W231/HP-38 and can be less pleasant to shoot.
Mid-to-high range W231/HP-38 will not overly bulge the case and Lee carbide resizing die will reduce down to case base to not require the need for push-through resizing with FCD/Redding G-Rx dies. If I run into Glocked (overly bulged) cases that won't fully resize down, I will rotate the case 90 degrees and attempt to resize a second time. If I can't, I deem the case base far too stretched (thinned) and toss in my recycle bin (If you are using Dillon resizing die with Glocked cases, it may not fully resize down to the case base and you will need to push-through resize them with FCD/G-Rx dies).
As previously posted, you really want to double-check bullet setback with 40S&W. My QC step is to measure the OAL before and after I feed/chamber the test rounds from the magazine by manually releasing the slide. If you have measurable decrease in OAL by several thousands, you may have neck tension/brass case wall spring back issue.
I do not recommend the use of FCD with lead bullets as it may reduce neck tension and increase bullet setback issues.
Tell me your experiences with the 40. What powders do u like and what grain bullets seem to excel.
I transitioned from 45ACP/9mm to 40S&W as my match caliber and depending on powder/charge used, it can be loaded for accuracy and milder/moderate recoil without overly bulging the case. I have shot 140/155/165/170/180 bullet weights in jacketed/plated/moly-coated/lead and tested Bullseye/Promo/Clays/Titegroup/WST/Green Dot/W231/HP-38/Unique/Universal/PowerPistol/HS-6/WSF/AutoComp powders.
- 180 gr bullet weight can easily produce very accurate loads even using start-to-mid range load data. IMO, it is more accurate bullet weight compared to other weights and can produce less felt recoil for prolonged shooting sessions.
- 155/165 Montana Gold jacketed (FMJ/JHP) bullets have been my match bullets driven to mid-to-high range W231/HP-38 load data that produces moderate recoil. MG 165 gr FMJ/JHP with 5.0 gr of W231/HP-38 at 1.125" OAL is my favorite match load.
- I use WSF for full-power loads and like Remington Golden Saber/Speer Gold Dot 165 gr JHP bullets for SD/HD practice/back up loads and carry factory GS JHP ammunition.
- I introduce new shooters to 40S&W using 180 gr Berry's/Rainier/X-Treme TCFP plated bullets loaded with 3.8-4.3 gr of W231/HP-38 at 1.125" OAL. Produces lighter than full-power 9mm recoil yet very accurate loads and I work them up to 4.5 gr.
There's plenty of load data available from 125 gr to 200 gr on
Hodgdon's load data site and I referenced Lyman #49 and
1999 Winchester load data for lead bullet loads.
Here's current published load data from Hodgdon I referenced for my loads:
165 gr Sierra JHP W231/HP-38 OAL 1.125" Start 4.8 gr (946 fps) 28,100 PSI - Max 5.3 gr (1001 fps) 32,500 PSI
165 gr Sierra JHP WSF OAL 1.125" Start 6.3 gr (1055 fps) 28,100 PSI - Max 6.7 gr (1115 fps) 32,700 PSI
180 gr Hornady XTP W231/HP-38 OAL 1.125" Start 4.1 gr (797 fps) 23,800 PSI - Max 5.0 gr (947 fps) 32,900 PSI
180 gr Hornady XTP WSF OAL 1.125" Start 5.4 gr (946 fps) 28,000 PSI - Max 5.8 gr (1013 fps) 32,900 PSI
Here's 1999 Winchester load data: