What would be the better Rifle?

[Uncle Mike]

The Vanguards are descent enough. If you get one of the Sub-MOA vanguards.

Remember that the vanguards are built in japan, IF you are one that prefers to buy American.
So are the Browning A and X-Bolt rifles.

They(vanguards) tend to be a fairly good looking rifle also.

For the same cash... you should be able to get a fine Savage!

As a reminder, the rifle you have now will probably keep up with most, not all, but most of the other models out there.

Savage 114/14, 116/16
Tikka T-3
Browning A-Bolt, X-Bolt
Weatherby Sub-moa Vanguard
Remington SPS

All the above mentioned rifles are close in price, with the Savage 114/14 and the sub-moa vanguard being a bit more expensive

 

[txman321]

im feeling a little bit better about the rifle I got then, I may save up for something very nice around $800-$900 dollar rifle. I Am more of a hunter so I dont buy any tactical rifles or anything and Im only 19 so I can only afford so much so i just want my stuff to beable to perform when i need it to

 

[txman321]

about those savages, I have been looking at them My friend has one in 7mm rem mag its pretty nice Almost identical to my ATR because mine has the adjustable lightning mossberg trigger.

I have seen the savages in a wood stock. Would a .243 savage in a wood stock be decent? Since I already have a .270 I need something for coyote/fox the .270 seems a bit overkill on those

 

[Uncle Mike]

Great idea.

Nothing like saving up and getting what you REALLY want-

 

[benzy2]

Deer will be no problem with a rifle shooting 1.5-2" groups. Hogs either. That is plenty accurate for a hunting rifle. So many people want dime sized groups and that's fun but the difference between .5" groups and 1.5" groups at 100 yards on a deer isn't going to matter much at all.

The 700 action has potential but out of the box, especially on their budget lines, isn't anything particularly special. It will probably shoot better than your 100 but not much. Having more isn't a bad thing but there isn't much upgrade from the ATR to the base 700 sporter rifles, especially when it comes to hunting deer.

I think saving for something of better quality is a good idea.

Coyote will be no issue for a .243. You may be still a little overpowered but I really like the .243. Loaded with light bullets it makes a great varmint round and with the right heavy hunting bullets and decent placement it makes a good deer rifle as well. You get both small and medium game with the .243. I like Savage as well. They all seem to shoot well. I would also look at CZ. Amazing triggers that will corrupt you for life.

 

[Reid73]

Well great. I think you're making a wise decision.

I don't want to harp on buying secondhan, but if you are willing to go that route you'll find that $800-$900 will buy you a high quality rifle in excellent condition.

In the meantime, don't worry about people sneering at your rifle ... it is perfectly adequate. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to 'one-up' you, which says everything about them and nothing about your choice.

Personally I'm not a big fan of Savage rifles but many people really like them.

I prefer a wood stock to a synthetic but you will need to make your own judgment about that.

 

[txman321]

i think thats what im going to do is save like $150-200 a check, ill be there in no time

 

[Uncle Mike]

txman321. Savage makes a darn good rifle, and this comes from a guy that hunted with and shot compitition with nothing but Remingtons.

People say... well there are soooo many aftermarket parts for the 700, oooohh baby.

I don't want to have to rebuild a rifle that I bought for a hunting gun, or informal compitition/target gun for that fact, just to get it to shoot as well as another brand I could buy that will preform right out of the box!


You could get a Savage 14 in .243, or save some cash and get the 10 or 11.

 

[ArmedBear]

The Vanguards are descent enough. If you get one of the Sub-MOA vanguards.

My walnut Vanguard Sporter shoots my handloads sub-MOA, no problem. No mods, I didn't bed it, nothing.

That said, I've warmed up to the Savages. Their basic synthetic stocks are awfully flimsy, though.

700 isn't worth looking at, to me. Lacks a locking bolt for hunting, costs too much for what it is. The fact that it's a popular competition rifle speaks only of its action, just like the 10/22 (which I think is a POS as it comes from the box).

 

[txman321]

about my scope that i have on it right now, do you guys think it will work?

Leupold rifleman, it cost me $200 dollars and im still unsure about it, I havent taken it to the range yet since i bought it so i may be unsure over nothing but the nikon prostaff was another one i was looking at and it was cheaper

 

[Reid73]

Since you haven't used the scope yet, my advice is stop worrying and start shooting!

I don't want to have to rebuild a rifle that I bought for a hunting gun, or informal compitition/target gun for that fact, just to get it to shoot as well as another brand I could buy that will preform right out of the box!

I agree.

Your post reminds me of this comment on the Alaska Shooting Forum:

I once met a fella in Springfield who asked me why I pay so much for a Sako when a Remington is only so much. He said if you get a Remington and have the stock bedded and the trigger adjusted and the barrel recrowned it will shoot as good as a Sako. I said I would rather shoot my rifle, not just use it keep my gunsmith happy.