What would you do in the woods? 2
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Mannlicher
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In the days past, or future, when the loss of a hog means the family starves, then you protect yours.
If the loss only bruises your ego, just write it off. I would still get their tag number, and let the game department know. Where I hunt, all the game guys are buddies of mine.
If the loss only bruises your ego, just write it off. I would still get their tag number, and let the game department know. Where I hunt, all the game guys are buddies of mine.
Agent Z
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I lament your loss. I truely do. I feel your pain in such close proximity to the frustration of it all that all I can advise is to be the better man and simply do as you did. They had guns too and no dead pig is worth getting into a fire fight over. Though I'm sure you would have attained complete satisfaction by mistaking them both for deer.
I had a similar experience though the alertcation was not over a dead animal but rather a stolen tree stand (mine) and a zone near a rub that I had placed tarsel glands nearby and an ignorant screw ball who thought he could pull his rifle on me faster that I could my .357 from a tactical holster. Needless to say I was the bigger man.
But before I left I picked up the tarsel glands (yelling and screaming) and I pissed everywhere I could. He didn't get my buck needless to say. Some 16 year old kid dropped my first deer instead (8 point) If ya want the details about that I can post the story. But I was happy knowing that clown didn't get it and that we both walked away alive. (yes I had the drop on em if you have to know).
Again, Sorry about yer pig. It probably tasted like crap anyway
I had a similar experience though the alertcation was not over a dead animal but rather a stolen tree stand (mine) and a zone near a rub that I had placed tarsel glands nearby and an ignorant screw ball who thought he could pull his rifle on me faster that I could my .357 from a tactical holster. Needless to say I was the bigger man.
But before I left I picked up the tarsel glands (yelling and screaming) and I pissed everywhere I could. He didn't get my buck needless to say. Some 16 year old kid dropped my first deer instead (8 point) If ya want the details about that I can post the story. But I was happy knowing that clown didn't get it and that we both walked away alive. (yes I had the drop on em if you have to know).
Again, Sorry about yer pig. It probably tasted like crap anyway
Newt
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You talked like the hog is around there like a gray squirrel is around here. Which would make it not as upsetting. If it's something like that, then I let it go. If it's a 150 class buck, then that's when the "young and stupid" that everyone talks about when they get old, would come out in me. I'm halfway upset just thinking about it. Mannlicher has a great point though. If it was starving children or meat, you're faced with a real problem. I feel for ya. I hope that hog tasted like burned liver when they ate it.
HBK
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As much as I would like to say that you should have used your 308 for two perfect head shoits, buried the bodies in shallow graves, and had a barbecue, I have to concur with everyone who said you did the right thing. It was just a pig and not worth a life. I feel bad for you, though, that you killed a pig and had it stolen. That sucks, but you totally did the right thing.
Mannlicher
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If my family were starving, and depending on me to bring home the meat, one response might be warranted. Since the freezer at home, and at Publix is well stock, then I guess I would just have to let them go.
nygunguy
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If it were me
I carry a digital camera in my pack.
Being in a tree stand is a huge tactical disadvantage (against 2 people) if you can't get cover. But given that you were fairly well gunned up and practice -
I would have made sure that I could get the tree between them and me , readied my weapon in one hand, and then snapped a picture with the other. If they chose to escalate the situation, then I'd have hoped that my first shot was a good one.
I carry a digital camera in my pack.
Being in a tree stand is a huge tactical disadvantage (against 2 people) if you can't get cover. But given that you were fairly well gunned up and practice -
I would have made sure that I could get the tree between them and me , readied my weapon in one hand, and then snapped a picture with the other. If they chose to escalate the situation, then I'd have hoped that my first shot was a good one.
Something similar happened to my dad in his youth. Dad, being the imtemperate SOB that he is, dealt with it by giving the offending party an ultimatum.
He had just dropped a 7-point with his Bubba-fied SMLE Lee-Enfield. He always carried the gun loaded to the hilt, 11 crammed into the mag and one in the chamber. He had just shot the deer and was walking to it when he was approached by two other hunters who claimed that they had just shot the same deer and that it had ran away. There was a bullet hole in its spine where the neck meets the back, so there was no way that it had ran anywhere.
My dad explained this to them, and he explained that he had just shot it through the spine at which time it fell down and stayed down.
My dad was 15 at the time, and both of these guys were older, in their early thirties. Thinking that they could get away with bullying the kid, one of them began going for his tag. This is where my dad's classic charm paid off.
My dad worked the bolt on his .303, pointed it at the pristine hind-quarters of the deer, and explained to them that they could have the deer if they wanted it. He also pointed out that he still had eleven rounds in his rifle and that he felt it was only to humane to make sure that the deer was really dead. He planned to do this by shooting it eleven more times.
The two guys left and my dad got the deer.
He had just dropped a 7-point with his Bubba-fied SMLE Lee-Enfield. He always carried the gun loaded to the hilt, 11 crammed into the mag and one in the chamber. He had just shot the deer and was walking to it when he was approached by two other hunters who claimed that they had just shot the same deer and that it had ran away. There was a bullet hole in its spine where the neck meets the back, so there was no way that it had ran anywhere.
My dad explained this to them, and he explained that he had just shot it through the spine at which time it fell down and stayed down.
My dad was 15 at the time, and both of these guys were older, in their early thirties. Thinking that they could get away with bullying the kid, one of them began going for his tag. This is where my dad's classic charm paid off.
My dad worked the bolt on his .303, pointed it at the pristine hind-quarters of the deer, and explained to them that they could have the deer if they wanted it. He also pointed out that he still had eleven rounds in his rifle and that he felt it was only to humane to make sure that the deer was really dead. He planned to do this by shooting it eleven more times.
The two guys left and my dad got the deer.
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Nah.... They might have shot back.
Leaky Waders
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Hmmm...sounds like a good reason to quit smoking...causes lung cancer, heart disease, and more apt for pigs to be stolen out in front of ya
Seriously though...maybe the guys didn't know it was yours....maybe they thought they had shot it. Or maybe they just down right stole it to be mean. Either way, you did the right thing. I'd probably would've called the game warden and reported their descriptions and license number if possible.
On the flip side...how could you live w/ yourself making a life and death situation over a pig? Just talk to any Hatfield or McCoy and ask how bad a feud one pig can start.
v/r,
LW
Seriously though...maybe the guys didn't know it was yours....maybe they thought they had shot it. Or maybe they just down right stole it to be mean. Either way, you did the right thing. I'd probably would've called the game warden and reported their descriptions and license number if possible.
On the flip side...how could you live w/ yourself making a life and death situation over a pig? Just talk to any Hatfield or McCoy and ask how bad a feud one pig can start.
v/r,
LW
HankB
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Reminds me a little about a story a friend of mine told me. Guy bought a couple of hundred acres of woodland, prominently posted "no tresspassing" signs, and built a couple of somewhat permanent tree stands. Well, one day he goes out to hunt, finds the gate open and the lock freshly cut, a nice car and a nice SUV a couple of hundred yards in. AND a couple of guys in HIS tree stands!
He wasn't seen, but didn't choose to confront a couple of armed tresspassers.
But, as Art would say . . . the guys walked home. And their vehicles lost a lot of trade-in dollars besides the tires.
Tresspassing to hunt can be costly.
He wasn't seen, but didn't choose to confront a couple of armed tresspassers.
But, as Art would say . . . the guys walked home. And their vehicles lost a lot of trade-in dollars besides the tires.
Tresspassing to hunt can be costly.
rock jock
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I'll be honest - I wouldn't shoot them but I also wouldn't vote to convict anybody who did.
Lots of good posts on this topic.
In another age, back when hunting was less a sport than a necessity, and an empty-handed hunter meant a hungry family, I could easily see defending your kill by any means necessary. Today, however, most juries probably wouldn't see it that way.
For what it's worth, I think you did the right thing. It has been my experience in life that scum such as this usually gets its comeuppance eventually. Maybe the next time they try that stunt, the intended victim won't be so balanced and collective as you were, and there'll be two dead pig-pinchers next to an expired porcine carcass and a suspect who is never found.
DAL
In another age, back when hunting was less a sport than a necessity, and an empty-handed hunter meant a hungry family, I could easily see defending your kill by any means necessary. Today, however, most juries probably wouldn't see it that way.
For what it's worth, I think you did the right thing. It has been my experience in life that scum such as this usually gets its comeuppance eventually. Maybe the next time they try that stunt, the intended victim won't be so balanced and collective as you were, and there'll be two dead pig-pinchers next to an expired porcine carcass and a suspect who is never found.
DAL
mohican
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You did the right thing on a number of levels.
Maybe that's why I don't use a climber.
To be honest, the level of resistance I would use might vary.
On public land, they skate with the pig, unless I can get their picture, license plate, etc.
On my land, it's a different story. At the least they'd be walking home. You let them get away with it on your land, it open's the door to all poachers, dope growers, etc.
On public land, the character that took the pig know that at least 95% of people won't escalate. They also work where they have the numerical advantage. It's rare that you see them alone.
Maybe that's why I don't use a climber.
To be honest, the level of resistance I would use might vary.
On public land, they skate with the pig, unless I can get their picture, license plate, etc.
On my land, it's a different story. At the least they'd be walking home. You let them get away with it on your land, it open's the door to all poachers, dope growers, etc.
On public land, the character that took the pig know that at least 95% of people won't escalate. They also work where they have the numerical advantage. It's rare that you see them alone.
kentucky bucky
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No doubt they were a couple of INBRED MORONS, but you did the smart thing (but not the easiest thing). Those kids you were trying to feed need you at home not dead and rotting in a tree.
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Sunray
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No shots, that'd be extremely bad for you. Just a call to the local constabulary if you got their plate number. Report the theft.
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