What would your JIC gun be?

[tbutera2112]

saiga 12 with some extra drums and mags

end of the world happens and the easiest ammo to find in bulk is going to be 12g

box of 100 for $20 makes it easy to stock up on ammo too....sure its bird shot, but it would still **** somebody up

or be a baller and stock up on good stuff

 

[Ignition Override]

The SKS,
although it probably won't matter living just outside the city if we descend into a brief "Road Warrior" chaos,
or in several years some US cities suffer from riots, like happens in Athens, Greece etc.

But if another gun gives us a much better chance of procuring a steady supply of (vital) refrigerated insulin for my wife's Type One diabetes, please tell me what it is.
Otherwise, it won't matter what guns or ammo I have.

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Well let's see.
Mine would probably be my Mosin M44, My Astra A-90, and my Stevens Model 77F.

Ammo, food, knives, basically the works.

And a Mauser bolt isn't difficult. I figured mine out in an hour without help. But then again, they are thugs, and apparently (according to the Dumbest Thing You Have Seen At The Range thread) some seem to think guns run on batteries. LOL.

If they do figure out how to assemble a bolt, it still wouldn't be safe to shoot considering headspacing.

 

[WeedWacker]

I picture something similar to the Ruger Bear kit but instead of the .454 cas Alaskan maybe a Judge or Governor .410 pistol. Would definitely make it more affordable as a kit. Include the water filter, a magnesium firestarter, and a folding 3" knife, like a Gerber Evo Jr. and a 6"-7" fixed blade, maybe a cheap Glock knife or a BK-7 in a kydex sheath if you wanted a higher quality package. Add a whetstone or sharpener and I'd definitely take a serious look at it personally. That should all fit in a briefcase sized bag/case. If you put it in a 3-day pack I would be sold on it.

 

[gunnutery]

If a "catastrophic event" is the selling point and my demographics cover the enitre US, I guess I'd market several JIC options to let the customers decide what would best suit their needs in such an event.

Firearm Combo:
.44 magnum levergun & .44 mag revolver
.357 mag levergun & .357 revolver
.22 bolt gun & .22 revolver
mix and match whatever yada yada
etc. etc.

Non-firearms I would include:
Speed loaders (if revolver)
Extra magazines (if auto)
100 rounds of each caliber selected
A short sword for when the ammo runs out (seriously)

Okay, so after typing all that, I realize that my JIC kit would be a little on the pricey side. Oh well, I've never claimed to be a business man.

 

[Hocka Louis]

I still don't understand the people who think they'll strip naked except for a .22 LR as a loin-cloth and live off the post-appocalyptic land. It is the weakest round available, but NOT the only rimfire.

If you like the features of a .22 LR then the .22 Mag is an infinitely more beneficial round in every aspect except that it is more expensive. That is WHY I'd recommend it and wave everyone off of the .22 LR if they could listen.

 

[goon]

I still don't understand the people who think they'll strip naked except for a .22 LR as a loin-cloth and live off the post-appocalyptic land. It is the weakest round available, but NOT the only rimfire.

If you like the features of a .22 LR then the .22 Mag is an infinitely more beneficial round in every aspect except that it is more expensive. That is WHY I'd recommend it and wave everyone off of the .22 LR if they could listen.

It could be that rather than reading and actually answering the question being asked, some just experience a knee-jerk response and assume that a total end of the world scenario must be what I'm talking about. There seems to be a lot of that going on here.
While I like guns, I don't think any firearm would feed me as reliably and effectively in the wake of a severe (but not necessarily permanent) disaster scenario as well as a good supply of mac n' cheese would. Think about it - half of your roof is gone, trees and power lines are down everywhere, and you don't even know when the nearest emergency crew is coming. Would you rather run around the neighborhood trying to shoot enough critters to feed your family with your 10/22 or Mossberg 500 or cook a few cups of rice in boiling water over a small fire?
Which of these scenarios is more likely to result in you and your loved ones getting the required nutrition to stay healthy until normal services are restored? Which is likely to result in the fewest possible complications?

I think overall that what Mossberg was trying to do was create a kit that offered at least some kind of security, or at least the illusion of security to those who bought it.
And I think that such a kit could be made to actually offer some security with a full stocked pump action or SxS shotgun in 20 or 12 gauge. I appreciate the input of those of you who actually read my questions and put some thought into what you'd include and why.

 

[Lakedaemonian]

M1 Carbine. Powerful enough to take up to and including white tailed deer, yet light and sleek enough to carry with ease. Its reliable, the ammo is relatively light and if need be, its powerful enough to ward off other dangerous predators like humans for example.

 

[Lakedaemonian]

ya know I started a thread just like this, but mine got locked and removed right away... no fair!

 

[doc2rn]

There are 2 types of thought going on here for the JIC:
One where you have to move out, and one where you hunker down.

Moving out with your BOB, weight is gonna be the first thing to come into play. In this instance its all gonna be about weight. A .22 lr/ wmr makes alot of sence when you look at carrying 500 rds of RF ammo vs. 500 shotgun shells.

Staying put in your AO, bigger is better, as you want to stop whatever is coming to get/ take what you have. The more food and water stores the better. In the end you still may have to move out to secure water and carrion but by then hopefully you will have it down to the essentials. For a novice the 20/12g would be ideal. I prefer SxS as it keeps a broad visual spectrum across the top of the barrel which helps them keep both eyes open.

For me its a brace of Colts and Ruger 77/22 MK II.

 

[Isaac-1]

Ok, I will play, working from the premise that order will be restored in a month or two, or the worst of the roaming gangs, etc. will kill each other off in about the same time frame.

1, Good quality light weight pellet gun to hunt small game, after all chances are the power is going to be out and there is no refrigeration (I live in the south). Even a .22 can be heard from a mile or more away, no reason to announce your location while putting dinner in the pot.

2, Ruger 10/22 in stainless, .22 LR because you can carry a lot of it, and when it comes down to it you can slow down a fairly large size gang at a fair distance with a .22, particularly if they are only armed with hand guns and don't know how to shoot.

3/4, A pair of larger caliber handgun / rifle that fire a common cartridge, something somewhat weatherproof and light. My personal choice at the moment would be an XDM-9 and a 9mm AR-15 conversion. If you need these chances are you were having to act in self defense, you either get away, or get more guns and ammo, or don't. I would be tempted to skip having the hand gun at all, and just go with a standard AR-15 or similar.

If we are talking about arming 2 or more people things change, if 2 people I would add a .22 handgun like the Ruger Camp Mk II or similar, and a second long gun like the 9mm AR-15.

It is all about not loading yourself down too much, and still maintaining a reasonable ammo supply, it helps if your not trying to roam long distance and can have a ammo/arms stash to go back to.

 

[Dnaltrop]

As demonstrated in Coos bay ( in this months American Rifleman)

.22 WILL do.

Hmmn... maybe one of those .22 gatling gun replicas, cheaper than a NIB 1877 Bulldog Gatling 45-70

http://www.usarmamentcorp.com/accessories.php only $36,500 to start!!!!!


JUST in case

 

[Heretic]

AR in my hand, .45 1911 on my side.