Topgun
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Other than me, I'll pick
460 Rowland
480 Ruger
17 HMR
460 Rowland
480 Ruger
17 HMR
What'll be gone in 20 years?
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Mike Irwin
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.450 Marlin
.45 Glock
.45 Glock
Campusninja
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IMHO:
.25 acp
8 mm Mauser
44 Special
.30 Carbine
(covers top secret time machine)
FREEDOM
.25 acp
8 mm Mauser
44 Special
.30 Carbine
(covers top secret time machine)
FREEDOM
Edward429451
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Store bought ammo.
Oracle
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.44 Magnum is here to stay, as long as it is around, there will always be .44 Special ammo available.
As for what won't be around in 20 years, I think that all the currently available rounds will be available in 20 years, plus a few new ones. When is the last time you saw a caliber seriously go out of production? Even .41 Magnum is still around. If I had to pick one that would go out of production, it would probably be the .400 Cor-bon. I don't think that one ever really caught on.
As for what won't be around in 20 years, I think that all the currently available rounds will be available in 20 years, plus a few new ones. When is the last time you saw a caliber seriously go out of production? Even .41 Magnum is still around. If I had to pick one that would go out of production, it would probably be the .400 Cor-bon. I don't think that one ever really caught on.
Mike Irwin
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"When is the last time you seriously saw a caliber go out of production..."
6.5 Remington Magnum, .45 Auto Rim, .351 Winchester Self Loading Rifle, .32 Remington, possibly the .30 Remington, .45 Winchester Magnum, 9mm Winchester Magnum (I THINK both of those have been dropped).
Just a couple to go out in the last few years...
6.5 Remington Magnum, .45 Auto Rim, .351 Winchester Self Loading Rifle, .32 Remington, possibly the .30 Remington, .45 Winchester Magnum, 9mm Winchester Magnum (I THINK both of those have been dropped).
Just a couple to go out in the last few years...
Schuey2002
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.41 Magnum.
WonderNine
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With all the .25ACP guns still out there I seriously doubt that there wont be any ammo for them in production in 2023. They still even make .25's!
You know what would be nice? A new .25 caliber round with a slightly longer case loaded much hotter than a .32ACP. A 50-60gr. cartridge loaded at about 250 ft./lbs. would do nicely. "The Winchester .25 Magnum centerfire". That would make a kickass concealable firearm in a tiny package.
You know what would be nice? A new .25 caliber round with a slightly longer case loaded much hotter than a .32ACP. A 50-60gr. cartridge loaded at about 250 ft./lbs. would do nicely. "The Winchester .25 Magnum centerfire". That would make a kickass concealable firearm in a tiny package.
Standing Wolf
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First Amendment, Second Amendment, Fourth Amendment.
For some reason people keep trying to throw dirt on the .41mag, but the caliber has always slowly and steadily gained in acceptance.
I can't see the Glock 45 or the .480 Ruger surviving unless other makers start building models for the calibers.
I can't see the Glock 45 or the .480 Ruger surviving unless other makers start building models for the calibers.
Jim March
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Dick Cheney
MicroBalrog
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AWB, FOPA-1986, GCA-1968
Guy L Johnson
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Things that will be gone
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Sarah Brady
tiberius
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Wondernine, I think NAA has this in their plans, but it will be a necked down .32 ACP case.
What'll be gone?
1. Gun shows (at least in their current form)
2. Private gun sales w/o FFL
3. unregistered firearms
MicroBalrog
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Gun control is dying. In 20 years, we'll go shooting together, I'll bring a PKM, you bring some ammo.
Orbital-Burn
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at the rate the liberals are going,
the USA
the USA
Sportcat
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Hillary Clinton 
telomerase
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>Gun control is dying. In 20 years, we'll go shooting together, I'll bring a PKM, you bring some ammo.
That's right. Things have been getting worse for a long time, but there's a limit to stupidity. 20 years from now your main problem will be your grandchildren asking you how you could have been so stupid as to put up with gun control, Prohibition II, worse-than-medieval tax levels, etc.
That's right. Things have been getting worse for a long time, but there's a limit to stupidity. 20 years from now your main problem will be your grandchildren asking you how you could have been so stupid as to put up with gun control, Prohibition II, worse-than-medieval tax levels, etc.
tiberius
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MicroB,
I agree that gun ownership and licensed carry are becoming more prevelant, but I still predict a movement towards more controlled gun ownership - but not prohibition. With America's panic over terrorism and general fear of everything, I am predicting that national gun registration will be inacted for the purpose of tracking terrorists or some such fanatasy. A future director of the gestapo, oops I mean Home Land Security, will make an impassioned plea that we need to track illegal arms transfers and either admistratively inact the registration or get it through a sympathetic congress.
Look at what has happened at the aiport, where fingernail clippers are now considered "illegal weapons" and people seem to find this reasonable.
We hard core RKBAers know that registration is wrong because it will lead to eventual confiscation, but most Americans do not see this. Most laws are inacted with good intentions (afterall, we would like to prevent terrorists from having guns, right?). It si future adiministrations that may truly misuse the data.
Of course, with national registration of all firearms there will no longer be a "need" for FFL's so maybe my other points can be discounted.
Of course, I may be wrong.... I hope so.
I agree that gun ownership and licensed carry are becoming more prevelant, but I still predict a movement towards more controlled gun ownership - but not prohibition. With America's panic over terrorism and general fear of everything, I am predicting that national gun registration will be inacted for the purpose of tracking terrorists or some such fanatasy. A future director of the gestapo, oops I mean Home Land Security, will make an impassioned plea that we need to track illegal arms transfers and either admistratively inact the registration or get it through a sympathetic congress.
Look at what has happened at the aiport, where fingernail clippers are now considered "illegal weapons" and people seem to find this reasonable.
We hard core RKBAers know that registration is wrong because it will lead to eventual confiscation, but most Americans do not see this. Most laws are inacted with good intentions (afterall, we would like to prevent terrorists from having guns, right?). It si future adiministrations that may truly misuse the data.
Of course, with national registration of all firearms there will no longer be a "need" for FFL's so maybe my other points can be discounted.
Of course, I may be wrong.... I hope so.
Oracle
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Mike, aren't there some manufacturers who make some of those "obsolete" calibers? I believe that Georgia Arms makes 9mm Winchester Magnum, at least.
As for our rights going away, I don't really know. I do know that it's now easier to lawfully carry a firearm in most places than it's been in 100 years or more, and that things seem to be turning around on the RKBA front, but that doesn't mean that things like that can't change. I guess it's just something we'll have to wait and see on, and keep working to improve our ability to exercise our rights.
As for our rights going away, I don't really know. I do know that it's now easier to lawfully carry a firearm in most places than it's been in 100 years or more, and that things seem to be turning around on the RKBA front, but that doesn't mean that things like that can't change. I guess it's just something we'll have to wait and see on, and keep working to improve our ability to exercise our rights.
tiberius
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What kind of reply is that from a guy named "Oracle"
Mike Irwin
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"Mike, aren't there some manufacturers who make some of those "obsolete" calibers? I believe that Georgia Arms makes 9mm Winchester Magnum, at least."
Yep. Essentially you can get just about ANYTHING that you want in the way of old, obsolete ammo, which technically means that nothing is obsolete, just moribund.
In a practical sense, though, obsolete is probably best defined as no new firearms being made for it, and ammo not available from either the original loader or one of the other BIG ammo manufacturers.
As for the .25 NAA, I think it's already come, gone, and been pronounced dead, hasn't it?
Yep. Essentially you can get just about ANYTHING that you want in the way of old, obsolete ammo, which technically means that nothing is obsolete, just moribund.
In a practical sense, though, obsolete is probably best defined as no new firearms being made for it, and ammo not available from either the original loader or one of the other BIG ammo manufacturers.
As for the .25 NAA, I think it's already come, gone, and been pronounced dead, hasn't it?
tiberius
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Mike,
I just checked the NAA site and found the following from the owner/president of NAA. NAA isn't Rohrbar (sp?) so I think we can assume it is still on its way.
this on the message boards.
and this on Sandy's "soapbox" page
I just checked the NAA site and found the following from the owner/president of NAA. NAA isn't Rohrbar (sp?) so I think we can assume it is still on its way.
this on the message boards.
and this on Sandy's "soapbox" page
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