What's a good C&R rifle in .308 for 600YRD shooting?

[silverlance]

hm.

now it's a big toss-up for me. should i invest in reloading gear (there's no lee loader for 7.5) and use my k31s (one is already scoped, bought it that way), or should I find a .30-06 (which i have no rifles for, but i do have the reloading equipment)?

this will take some thinking.
can they both use 110gr lightweight bullets for plinking? i have 2000 .30 carbine .308 110grs that i never got around to loading.

 

[dstorm1911]

Graf and sons $22 for the dies if thats the only caliber your gonna load for get a whole starter set from lees for under $50, your budget was $300 so $169 for the rifle the balance in a basic loader setup and some reloadable ammo like Privi Partisan etc... your next batch of ammo will be dirt cheap reloaded AND tailored to your rifles chamber

http://www.grafs.com/metallic/product/148864

 

[ArmedBear]

The 722 is the short action, available in 308 starting in 1956 (so that would limit the amount available via C&R)

That's my point.

Any C&R 722's are "first year made" guns, and in good condition, have collector value.

 

[islandphish]

Original 1903's are expensive, custom/sporters can be had at good prices.

I stole mine at 50$.

 

[Slamfire]

Original 1903's are expensive, custom/sporters can be had at good prices.

I stole mine at 50$.

What a deal!. I think 03 actions are going for $200.00 nowdays.

 

[dmftoy1]

If your only requirements are a 30 (ish) cal rifle with approximately .308 ballistics then I'd pick up a nice Enfield No4 Mk 1 and some brass. The bullets are slightly bigger (.312 vs .308) the ballistics are pretty close and you can get them and the brass pretty cheap. The only knock I can see is that the bullets will be a bit more expensive because you won't be able to buy pulldowns.

 

[dracphelan]

2. "However, a sporterized 1903 Springfield rifle in 30-06 could meet all of your other requirements." WHAT A BRILLIANT IDEA! it fires the .308 round, so I can use the really dirt cheap .308 bullets that are always in abundance, and reloading the cases is pretty easy. only one problem though. springfield 1903 rifles that are in good enough condition to hit 600 yards is probably hard to find - and expensive when you do.

see, guys, i plan to use a lee loader to reload. i dont have the space requirements for press reloading. i can easily reload 3006 or 308.

1. The auction sites and just about every gunshow I go to have sporterized Springfields for less than $300. Example:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=77994112

2. Instead of getting the loader, get a Lee hand press. I use one as part of a portable reloading kit. They run $30 and are more flexible.

 

[Outlaws]

That's my point.

Any C&R 722's are "first year made" guns, and in good condition, have collector value.

Ya, for the 308s. But for since the OP is open to 30-06, that opens up his options a lot.
Here is a 721 made in 1951. $300
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78219279

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

Gator Quoted:

A C&R is anything over 50 years old, plus what is specifically listed

Just because it is 50 years old doesn't mean it makes the cut. The list makes the cut.

 

[tinygnat219]

I have a Remington 721 in 30.06 that's my hunting rifle. Great rifle, very accurate and it's still pretty.
I picked mine up with scope for $290.00

 

[silverlance]

can your 721 do minute of 2'x1' at 600 yards? if it can, i think i need a 721.

I have a scoped k31 that MIGHT be able to do that. that barska just doesn't have enough adjustment, though.

i mean, i'm not trying to shoot clover groups at 600 yards. all i want to do is smack steel. but unfortunately all my bolt guns, no matter how accurate, can't do that as they all have non-adjustable sights. if i shot with the same rifle and the same ammo every day for a year, i probably woudl be able to do it by kentucky windage. but id rather use a scope and a gun that is known to be accurate.

i'm looking at 1903s right now.

 

[Davo]

If you are serious about long range shooting, and it must be with a milsurp your going to need a swiss k31 or a sweedish mauser, neither is chambered for .308.
Conversly you can get a new .308 that willl shoot well for under 300 bux.
If your friends already reload, all you need are 7.5 swiss dies, everything else can be used with both .308 and 7.5 swiss.
Ive scoped one of my k31's and its a great gun shooting excellent issue ammo.

 

[KaiserBen]

Gator Quoted:
Quote:
A C&R is anything over 50 years old, plus what is specifically listed
Just because it is 50 years old doesn't mean it makes the cut. The list makes the cut.

Wrong, a firearm is C&R eligible if it's on the list *or* 50 years old.

Citation: http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/relics/

 

[trs18]

In the bolt-action military rifle matches around here, I see most folks with 6.5 Swede or 7.5 Swiss, and a few 30-06's and 7x57's. I have a Chilean M1912/61 in 308 (marked 7.62 NATO) that is one of my absolute favorite bolt-action military rifles to shoot.

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

KaiserBen: I stand to be corrected on that one. I always thought that it wasn't automatic once it makes the 50 year mark.