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Whats a good coyote rifle?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by sledhead76, Nov 3, 2009.

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  1. sledhead76

    sledhead76 Member

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    I've decided that I'd like a dedicated predator rifle, but it seems there's different ways to go about it. I've browsed around and found the Savage Predator Hunter, which is a bolt gun, and then there's the other end of the spectrum, something like the Remington R-15, the semiauto AR design. Which style do you guys prefer for coyote hunting and why? And in what caliber? The Savage comes in 223 Rem, 204 Ruger, 22-250 Rem, while the Remington doesn't offer 22-250. The Savage is much more affordable, comes with a scope, and has the accutrigger which I love. But, the R-15 offers the quick second shot. Anyway, those are just two options I've been considering. What do you guys think?
     
  2. Retooferab

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    Go to predatormasters.com you'll get all kinds of answers. I coyote hunt with an a bolt in 25-06 because thats what I like and what I have. I am having an ar15 built by Mike Milli at Dedicated Technologies in 204 Ruger. I don't really need it but I wanted it. Isn't that why we buy half the things we own. I am interested in the204 for its good range and light recoil. Bottom line buy what you want and can afford.
     
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    wow, that predatormasters site has a lot of information, thanks!
     
  5. sledhead76

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    Yeah, $75 for a box of ammo is crazy, that's why I was leaning toward the 204 or 22-250. I haven't had the opportunity to fire either caliber yet, but they both seem to be pretty popular and more in the $15-$20 a box price range.
     
  6. TankHand

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    +1 On the Savage. I have a .223 savage w/ a 20" bull-bbl and aaccu-trigger that I Love for predators, or targets under 500 yds. Believe me that you won't need that second shot with the savage bolt gun. At 100 yds I print inside a quarter with mine just shooting off of bags.
     
  7. mljdeckard

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    Talk to the competitive coyote callers, and the most common gun is a 22-250. My dad has a fantastic Remington 700 VS-SF in 22-250. They like it more than say, the .223, because it screams through the wind better. Many of them also keep a shotgun with #4 buck next to them for close shots.

    I'm in the process of building an AR for varminting, and I'll probably use a 24" barrel to get all of the velocity I can out of the .223, but I bet I'll still be wishing that the AR could be chambered in 22-250.

    There might still be times and hunts where a 25-06 or even a 30-06 loaded with very light bullets is appropriate.
     
  8. Gibbles

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    That's one thing I'm working on doing well, I can blast bunnies all day long but coyote's are just smarter than me...

    I use a combo of 12ga (Saiga) and an .223 AR with scope quite well for bunnies, depending on how the bunnies are acting that day...
    the best luck I have had with coyotes was while hunting deer, I had a nice clean shot on a few, but I passed hoping to bag a deer.
     
  9. eddism

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    Take a look at the FN 98 Mauser action 6.5-284 in a 26" barrel with 1/10" twist No. 5 Tobler Stainless Barrel. Mount a 4-12X50 Swarovski Scope.

    Projectile: Hornady 100gr SP
    Powder: AR2209 58.5g
    Primer: PMC
    Case: Winchester
    Overall Length: 76mm
    Velocity: 3640fps

    Shoots 1/2" groups at 100yds. Using substantial less powder per shot (13gr) within 50fsp of the 264 Winchester Magnum.
     
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    Gibbles, I'm with you. I've killed a bajillion bunnies, but I really am just getting started on coyotes.
     
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    The gun is your choice, but get a .223 if you plan to shoot it much.
     
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    Ruger 581+ series Ranch rifles are nice affordable semi autos. My brand new tactical (non ATI folder:barf:) will shoot 1 MOA with 55 grain match ammo and a decent scope. It was $700 OTD with a 20 rnd mag. Very light and easy to shoot prone.
     
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    Now,.......I know some of you will say this is just silly, BUT,

    I have an idea of building an upper, with a 24" Wylde chamber, and a double-sided rail to mount an 870 Masterkey-style underneath it. (You have to have the 870 receiver cut to fit against the mag well.) This will allow .223/5.56 out to 500 yards, and #4 buck for the surprise shot within 50 yards. I mean, if I am going to have both guns with me anyway,....

    And while I'm at it, I could build another dedicated .22LR upper with the same mount for jackrabbits, using 7-1/2. :)

    Just thinking out loud.
     
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    I like the AR15 personally.

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    It's hard to beat a medium weight barreled 22-250, but a 243 will work the wind better and shoot nearly as flat.
    A good shooter should be a competent reloader, because a serious hunter will expend a lot of ammo just practicing.


    NCsmitty
     
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    Rocky- is that out in the AZ/NV nook somewhere?
     
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    AR platform, many models/variants and calibers to choose from.
     
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    I have the Savage Predator in 223. it is the most accurate gun I own. Have shot a 3 shot group well under1/2 inch( just over 1/3 actually:) with cheap 55 gr fmj. I have not worked up a load yet for it. I wish I had it in 22-250 as IMO its the best coyote round unless its real windy then the 243 gets the nod.

    Bill/WI
     
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    I have multiple heavy barrels and AR's in a wide range of calibers and depending on the time of year and what I'm doing I will carry any of them. When I go out and intentionally call for coyotes I take an old 788 in 22-250. It is no beauty and snow camo'd with tape and shoots sub moa with 50gr Balistic tips. The whole gun including a matching period wide angle weaver cost less than $300.00.
    Keep an eye out for one of these and you won't be disapointed.
     
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    Why is Robin dressed up in camo out hunting when there is crime to fight? Batman got it handled?
     
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    My coyote gun is an M70 .22-250. It is a post 64 and if I had to do it over again it would have been a savage or the like because of the fit but it is a very minor quibble and I'm not going to do anything about it. It is plenty accurate and loves the tiny little fast v-max loadings.
     
  23. Larry Ashcraft

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    I've used 223 and 22-250, but the 25-06 is my favorite.

    When Wiley collides with a 100 grain Ballistic Tip going 3300 fps, his chances aren't good. ;)
     
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    I have 2 choices here; in a boltie I would do anything in 6mm remmy; a seriously screamer of a cartridge. a Coyote hit with a 6mm bullet doing about 3300 fps, will make them real sick, real fast.
    If ammo cost is not that a big a deal to you, then a AR in 204 is flat with very little recoil, for fast follow up shots.
    If you are hot stuff, and don't think you need a lot of follow up shots, check out a DPMS AR , in 243!! That will knock their wee-wee's in the dirt, real fast!
    If ammo cost is a factor, then I would look for an ar or boltie , in 223.
    and for a final thought, just for cool factor, and absolutely no recoil whatsoever, a Remmy boltie, in 17 fireball, out to 300 yds, would be so schwing!!!!
    Also it would be super cheap to reload, if you were going to do that.
     
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    YAH! YAH! Ruger 10/22 17cal VMAX suppressed. The follow-ups come in a whisper. Get the whole lot quick.
     
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