Whats a Lama?

[chopinbloc]

i am not a gun snob; i like anything that does what it was intended to. unfortunately, the only experience i've had with llama was a jam 'o matic mini max. the small frame is particularly difficult to get to run right so take it for what it's worth but the darn thing was consistently unreliable. too bad i couldn't get it running right, that is a very convenient size for a carry pistol. it just felt so right in the hand i had to get it.

 

[Mad Magyar]

Feel bad for your experience chopinbloc. Since I've only fired 230gr FMJ with my IXA .45, not sure if it would be as reliable w/ JHP's. But to be honest, I've had failure to feeds w/my 1911A1 Sistema (Colt contractual pistol) using anything other than FMJ.
9mmhpfan, the link you suggested was good..I think their assessment was fair and balanced. I especially appreciated the note that average shooters don't have to run to the gunsmith for professional enhancements, aka; trigger jobs, etc...One last point, I'm out on the firing range weekly and I know the problems that others are having w/their pistols, some very expensive. Maybe it is a "crap shoot".

 

[Ash]

I had an IXC with 13 round double stack magazine. It was my first decent handgun, replacing my Bryco 9mm. It actually was very reliable and I bought it because my grandfather had had a Llama for many, many years. A WWII combat engineer, he had used that Llama all my life and liked it very much, so I bought one. As I said, it was very reliable (never failed in any way) but not at all accurate. I couldn't hit anything with it. I used it as a truck gun for short distance emergency work and could hit man sized targets as close range. However, it was no target pistol. It was only marginally more accurate than a smooth bore musket, I imagine!

I replaced it with an FEG GKK .45, which was actually a decent pistol all around. Good accuracy, good reliability, but very expensive single stack magazines. It was replaced by a Witness, which I have now had for 8 years and don't plan on replacing.

Ash

 

[Ash]

Oh, and MM, are you an Insane Austrian?

Ash

 

[JDGray]

Thanks for all the info (jokes). The man already traded it for a goat! Wanted to much for it anyways. JDGray

 

[redloki]

My first 1911 was a Llama. I traded my dealer a Mak90, he gave me the Llama and a $100.00. I had it jam on me a few of times till I polished the feed ramp and then I never had a problem. It would eat anything I put in it. I could easily hit a 3lb coffee can at 100yds almost every time once I figured out my bullet drop with my ammo of the day. This is something I have a hard time doing with my $1000.00 Kimber. I wish I had never sold that pistol.

 

[Mad Magyar]

Ash, further East...Your remarkable FEG .45 is the clue, and don't tell me that it was a "piece of junk"...

 

[Ash]

Ah yes. In WWI, whilst speaking of Huns, the Magyars were also brought up. Austro-Hungarians. The Austrians I had assumed to be the Magyars, however, they would more likely to have been Huns in the view of the English, so Hungarians makes more sense. Does that make the Finns and Estonians of Magyar descent as well?

As to FEG, I said the GKK was a decent pistol all around. My only complaint had been the expensive single stack magazines. Folks called it a double action Browning Hi Power, but that was bunk. It was a loose copy of a Smith and Wesson model 39 if ever there was one. I think the fact that FEG made the GP-35 copy and the GKK had the same indented slide at the muzzle that caused the comparisons.

"I replaced it with an FEG GKK .45, which was actually a decent pistol all around. Good accuracy, good reliability, but very expensive single stack magazines."

Ash

 

[deputy tom]

Back when I was a very young poor newly-wed I had a LLama .45.It needed a little tuning up to work properly but it did wind up shooting very well.I have spent thousands of dollars since then and only wished I had quit after the first glock(12),and the first kel-tec(6).It would have saved me thousands$$ more.At least with that cheap Llama I could hit the target every time and with a tight group too.Not a flame war to the plastic people just my situation.YMMV.tom.