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What's a toggle-bolt action?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by greenr18, Mar 29, 2013.

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  1. greenr18

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    What's a toggle-bolt on a bolt action rifle? Like Olympic type rifles that have them, is it just a short "flickable" straight pull for something like a .22LR? Can someone explain? Thanks
     
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    Look at this -

    http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=266

    While it is a conversion of a 10/22, I think it shows what a toggle bolt looks like.

    There was a discussion of the relative merits of this action, and I found two listed:

    1. It lets you eject and load the next round without taking your eyes off the target. Apparently useful for biathlon competitors.

    2. It makes a good "host" for a suppressor, as there isn't any action noise associated with the shot.
     
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    Thanks dmazur and kyhunter, also gspn do you think your post was worth it?
     
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    Huh never heard of that before
     
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    Some Russian Olympic 22LR rifles have that type of action. For biathlon if I am not mistaken. Looks like a straight pull with extra leverage. They can be found at gunshops every now and then.
     
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    browning t bolt is a straight pull, i thought?
     
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    BTW, that Russian biathlon KO rifle was a great gun that people just didn't know they should be buying and I'm not sure they are imported anymore. They cost $250-300. They were much more accurate than most shooters and probably a match for anything short of an anschutz that cost 4-5x the money. If I saw one tomorrow and a decent price I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.
     
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    Fortner bolt

    Toggle bolt. Fortner bolt.
    Like this....
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    Hand grips gun. Finger on the trigger. Thumb on the rear of the bolt. Touch the trigger. Bang. Rotate the hand at the wrist. Trigger finger comes up and catches the toggle and opens the bolt. Rotate hand down and the thumb pushes the bolt closed. Bang.
    Can be done very rapidly. It is all in the wrist.
    Pete
     
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    You know, you may be right! The Browning bolt doesn't rely on a toggle to go over center to lock the action. It pushes locking lugs into position.

    Being called a T-Bolt does confuse things a bit. :)
     
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    When I heard "toggle bolt" I immediately thought of a Luger action. I believe that's also a toggle bolt.
     
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    Luger is not bolt action but a semiauto. It is toggle slide, where you don't have the toggle handle to grab. Clever reminder anyway.
     
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    I just picked one up. Its slick!

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    The Luger is indeed a toggle bolt. The bolt holds the action closed until it is broken by the bump in the frame as the slide assembly moves back. Were the Luger built on a solid frame and not a slide, it would be a bolt-action repeater that was operated by grasping the knobs and pulling up. As far as I can tell, toggle bolt actions simply take the concept, turn it on its side, and add a handle. I could be wrong but the physics seem to be the same.
     
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    Toggle bolts are also used by Maxim type machine guns, driven by recoil.

    BSW
     
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    Relax. gspn was tagging the thread because he wanted to know the answer also. That's usually what a post like that means.

    Matt
     
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    Ash, you are correct. Most people that own a Luger would agree... and there IS in fact a bolt - that thing that slides back and forth... and there IS in fact a pair of "toggle handles" (kind of "knobs") you grab between your fingers to pull the bolt back. (unlike what the post somewhere above yours says... ) :)

    Just sayin'

    All in fun.
     
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    Kinda touchy today?
     
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