azredhawk44
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Going for elk this year in August in a part of Arizona that has some pretty wide open rolling hills and high altitude pasture. Visibility is amazing, both for me and for the game.
My rifles in the safe include a Winchester 94 in 30-30, a Springfield M1A 18" Scout, and a Mosin-Nagant 91/30 in 7.62x54R. I've already bought a Ruger Redhawk 4" revolver and a Sig GSR Revolution 1911 this year, so I will get mauled by the girlfriend if I go out and buy a 300WinMag in time for the hunt in August. Maybe next year, but not this year.
I can keep the M1A down to about 1.5MOA with irons and a 180gr load safe for its action, and I trust myself to accurately take a 150-200 yard shot and stay in an elk's vitals today. In a month, I think the practice I will be putting in will extend that range another 50-100 yards.
I don't have any illusions of the 30-30 being sufficient to elk hunting in this type of territory. 170gr bullet at 2000-2100fps is going to rainbow quite a bit.
But... what about the Mosin? The reported velocity of Sellier & Bellot 180gr 7.62x54R hunting ammunition is 2625fps, whereas a 180gr .308 from an 18" M1A is closer to 2400-2500fps. Seems that my Mosin is my most powerful rifle right now.
I've shot it with military surplus 180gr ammunition and it seems to group well... I get about 4MOA at 100 yards. About what I get with cheap South African 7.62Nato surplus from the M1A. I have done no bedding work on this rifle at all. I have yet to shoot any decent quality ammunition in this rifle, or any handloads. I have 100rds of S&B hunting ammo for it as well as reloading dies.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is the 7.62x54R cartridge appears to be more powerful than the .308 and would be a better choice under ideal accuracy conditions, I believe. Is a Mosin 91/30 capable of 200-300 yard shots on a 8" target?
I intend to try to get closer than this in the territory assigned to us, but I'll try the shot if push comes to shove and I can't close the distance any further than 250... and I have a rifle I know I can make the shot with.
All kidding aside, I intend to practice a lot with my hunting load from standing and kneeling positions with whichever weapon I choose to take, I'm just looking for someone who can say that their "Big 5" M-N special dropped an elk or deer at 200+ yards.
My rifles in the safe include a Winchester 94 in 30-30, a Springfield M1A 18" Scout, and a Mosin-Nagant 91/30 in 7.62x54R. I've already bought a Ruger Redhawk 4" revolver and a Sig GSR Revolution 1911 this year, so I will get mauled by the girlfriend if I go out and buy a 300WinMag in time for the hunt in August. Maybe next year, but not this year.
I can keep the M1A down to about 1.5MOA with irons and a 180gr load safe for its action, and I trust myself to accurately take a 150-200 yard shot and stay in an elk's vitals today. In a month, I think the practice I will be putting in will extend that range another 50-100 yards.
I don't have any illusions of the 30-30 being sufficient to elk hunting in this type of territory. 170gr bullet at 2000-2100fps is going to rainbow quite a bit.
But... what about the Mosin? The reported velocity of Sellier & Bellot 180gr 7.62x54R hunting ammunition is 2625fps, whereas a 180gr .308 from an 18" M1A is closer to 2400-2500fps. Seems that my Mosin is my most powerful rifle right now.
I've shot it with military surplus 180gr ammunition and it seems to group well... I get about 4MOA at 100 yards. About what I get with cheap South African 7.62Nato surplus from the M1A. I have done no bedding work on this rifle at all. I have yet to shoot any decent quality ammunition in this rifle, or any handloads. I have 100rds of S&B hunting ammo for it as well as reloading dies.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is the 7.62x54R cartridge appears to be more powerful than the .308 and would be a better choice under ideal accuracy conditions, I believe. Is a Mosin 91/30 capable of 200-300 yard shots on a 8" target?
I intend to try to get closer than this in the territory assigned to us, but I'll try the shot if push comes to shove and I can't close the distance any further than 250... and I have a rifle I know I can make the shot with.
All kidding aside, I intend to practice a lot with my hunting load from standing and kneeling positions with whichever weapon I choose to take, I'm just looking for someone who can say that their "Big 5" M-N special dropped an elk or deer at 200+ yards.