Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

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GunSMITH lied once, badly. Took my wife's brand new taurus 85 down there, cyclinder wouldn't come out. Dumb me didn't know at the time, to check for cyclinder rod unscrewing.
"Gunsmith" took it in back, hear hammering and swearing. Turns out he actually hammered it open, and charged me for it.
Once again, I wasn't into wheelguns at this time, but we decided we'd better test fire this thing. Cyclinder started binding after 10 rounds, and the manager of the range, (and future boss :) ) took one look, and showed me where the "gunsmith" had bent not just the ejector rod, but actually managed to bend the crane as well. Back to Taurus for service, came back with new cylinder/crane assembly. Fastest Taurus customer service ever, 5 weeks.
Never ever went to that "gunsmith" again, thousands swear by the guy.

Had a pawnshop guy swear the Mosin M44 he wanted to sell me was a Vietnam bringback, with the import "billboard"and ATFE serial number right there, missing the bayonet and wood looks like it barely missed the shredder. Priced at SALE! $199.99!!!
 
heres a good one ; he knows a guy who kills deer at 600 yards with a lever action rifle firing from the hip :rolleyes:
 
went to a local gunshop the other day to see if they would trade me there romanian PSL for my upgraded bushmaster AR 15 with a 400$ scope untop, he said he just picked one up that day brand new in the box for 800$, i said where did you get that? he said he ordered it from bushmaster,, i said wow i thought they were back ordered, he then just stared at me? so i said keep in mind mine has has been upgraded, he took a peek in my case and said yep thats the exact same one i just got from bushamster,, i said so you ordered the XM15 E2S patrolmans carbine, he said yep, so i said i see but mine has been fitted with a free float quad rail, flat top reciever, 16 inch threaded chrome lined barrel, scope and so on, he looked at me kinda funny and said whats a free float quad rail? i kinda laughed and then showed him, then he asked what a flat top reciever was??? at that point i asked him how long he had been working there and he told me he was half owner,, then he said why do you want to trade anyway, i said well for one the ammo would be a hell of alot cheaper,,, his jaw dropped and he said are you kidding me you do realize thats 7.62 54r, thats way more expensive then AR rounds,,, at that point i grabbed my gun and left
 
I watched a guy the other day in a local theft shop i mean gun shop trade a parade grade M-1 garand and a bereta 96fs plus $450 for a remington r-15. I went back three days later and the M-1 is on the shelf priced at $1750.00 the rem was only $1000.00 and that is probably $900 more than I would pay for it.
 
I was looking at a Springfield M1 Garand chambered in .308 and the salesman told my that .308 is a crappy round. I said really, hows that? He said because of the .308, that is why the Garand is not a standard issue weapon for the military anymore. I just smiled and walked away.
 
Triad SKS

My brother and I bought a 3 pack of Norinco SKS’s from a shop going out of business.
We decided to sell one at a garage sale we had.

This moron looks it over and said hey this is a Japanese triad gun. Very rare.
I tried to tell him it was a Chinese SKS but he said see this triangle (pointing to the factory 26 triangle) this is a triad mark.

I did not bother to ask him what the “Norinco Made in China” markings mean. I did ask him if he wanted it but he said no, he had 2 at home.

C.J.
 
just hang around the Cabela's gun library. The salesman there would put a used car dealer to shame.
 
I hear fairly often that there's only a couple of item X on Gunbroker going for such and such price. Usually turns out there's numerous of those items. Enough of them that I don't bother counting.
The price seems to be the variable. Sometimes they tell me it's much higher than it is, but lately the price has been about right. I think some dealers on GB(much like ebay) just don't know how to label and/or search.
 
Had a guy at a gun show one time who was trying to hard sell this old Enfield on people for about $600, if memory serves. The thing was trashed, but he was bragging about how the bore was "perfect... brand new, never fired".

He even hands me the rifle and a bore light to check it out. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a bore in worse condition... corroded, rifling worn away, looked like it had been stored under water. I thanked the guy, and then asked him if I looked like an idiot, and kept walking.

Don't know the "collector value" on a gun like that, but I still call BS on that deal. I sure wouldn't have bought that thing for $600, regardless of how "valuable" it might have been
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That sounds very sketchy, good for you spotting it AND DEALING HARSHLY WITH THE S.O.B.

OTOH, I saw an ACTUAL UNFIRED, UNISSUED Perfectly Mint Lee Enfield No 4 SMLE go for about $900. Hell, if I had had the cash available, I would have bought it myself! I love those guns, they're great.
 
At Lock Stock & Guns in 29 Palms, CA:

Me: *looks around* Well, I just got stationed at the base, thought I'd drop by and check out the local gunshops...

Owner: Boy, there ain't no gunshops between here and Loos Angelees, and maybe none left there either. It's the California government running them all out of business. We're about the only one left.


I find out over the next couple weeks that there are two gunshops in Palm Springs 30min away, a Big 5 that sells rifles down the road, and a Yellow Mart sporting-goods store that sells rifles and pistols directly across the street.


Another THR member had a similar experience at the same shop (not to steal his story), where he mentioned that J&G Sales had CA-legal SKSs for $169, and asked if the owner could come down from $450 on the Yugo SKS on the wall. Says the owner: "An SKS, in California, for under $400? You're a liar."

In situations like those, I wish that I or others had the foresight to say "Swell, let's put cash on it! I bet I find an ad selling CA-legal SKS for that price, $100 to the winner.
 
this is a rather benevolent lie:
a dealer at my local shows has a sign on his case that says
"all modern gun sales must go through an FFL"

my dad and i asked him about it, and he said that since he's a private dealer and doesnt do background checks, that sign is his way of refusing sales to people who he doesnt "like the way they look, talk, walk" act etc.

lol we thought that was pretty good.
 
Had guy at a shop tell me that Glocks are indestructible that you could throw it in a volcano and pull it out after it melted and still fire it. I have also heard the 'God carries a 1911' statement.

Damian
 
Like the time I was in a gun shop, and overheard a couple of 20-something guys looking at revolvers. Guy A was telling Guy B to buy the 38 instead of the 357 because the 38 was a bigger round. He got in a fight with the gun store employee over it.

"Everyone knows that the numbers stand for the width of the bullet. 38 is bigger than 35," Guy A tells the employee.

When the employee tried to tell them the 38 used a 35 caliber bullet, they called him a liar and a conman and went storming out.
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Why is that? Never did quite get it.
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The .38 special cartridge was based of off previous cartridge designs which used a .38cal bullet which was the same diameter as the case (like how a .22LR is today still). They just kept the .38 name.
 
A Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun wasn't big enough to take squirrel without SERIOUS gunsmith mods to the choke. I needed at least a $500 shotgun, but it would still be cheaper and better than modding the Remington.:eek:
 
I had a guy tell me that I needed a .270 because the bullet didn't drop any out to 400 yards and you could sight it in at 100 yards and shoot to the same point of aim at any distance you could see an animal.:rolleyes:

I had a vendor of a gun show say that a 30-06 is a dead round an I should buy the more powerful .308 he had, because it's a more modern round and nobody wants a 30-06 anymore. :rolleyes:

I'll give you that gun for LESS than wholesale and I'll probably lose money, but I'll throw in a box of shells too. , but that's only today..........the prices are going to go up shortly......you know everything's going up........it may be the last day they are at this price.....
 
I've never been lied to by a seller - that I know of, anyway. Most people that I've dealt with seem to be very trustworthy and fairly honest.

The only "lie" was when a guy sent me MORE than I had purchased. He sent my rifle in a brand, new, padded case that I hadn't bargained on - FREE - 'cause he thought I might be able to use it!
 
I was lied to once by a dealer, but it worked out against him. At a gunshow in Belleville IL. There was this older gent that had a table with about four glocks and a couple of sigs on it right by the front door. I had went to the show with the sole purpose of finding a g21. New, used, didnt matter as long as it was a 3rd gen with finger grooves and a rail. We looked around at all the tabes, and actually found a couple of good deals. I had noted that this guy had a third gen glock but it was in the tupperware box, the serial was dst####us. It was an early 200os (I think May 02, but I dont remember exactly. He was selling it NIB. I knew that it obviously wasnt. He gave me permission to field strip, it had a little powder residue in it, but still had the glock copper grease in all the right places, and looked nice. I noticed that it had a lasermax guiderod laser in it, that still has all of the numbers and looked as though it hadnt been shot much with it in it(the numbers start to wear on them after about 100 rounds). I asked him if he was sure it was new. He said "I know for a fact that it is, I bought it from a shop that went out of business." OK, well we bargained a little bit and I got it for 500OTD. 2 mags, box all the paperwork, etc. He thought he was getting one over on the used gun as new, he didnt even know that it had a 300 dollar guiderod laser installed.
 
i took my Savage 10FP to Gander Mtn to have the barrel cryo-accurized (i had bought ti from another store).

the man behind the counter stated that my rifle was 'not intended for shooting animals, this is for shooting people', and stated he wouldnt be suprised if the gunsmith wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole (which he actuall DID service for me)

he also asked why i spent $800 on this rifle when i could have bought another because it would not be accurate at long range. (it is, VERY much so)
 
I was in Sioux City Iowa, Schaels sporting goods in the mall. I was looking at a DPMS AR15. The sales man said it was THE exact issue weapon the Marines & soldiers were using in Iraq & Afganistan. If it's good enough for government work, it was good enough for me... I wanted to punch him in the mouth.
 
I've dealt with Shoot Straight down here in Fl. 'nuf said.

And if you're not very familiar with them it's the only place I've seen a beater M-44 go for $450 as a 'war bring back' and a sporter Carcano with no bolt for $300 as 'the Kennedy rifle'.
 
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