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What's the fastest, easiest way to trim 223 brass?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Rule3, Jan 22, 2013.

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  1. Rule3

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    Looking for the fastest and easiest way to trim.

    I have the RCBS Manual Trim Mate with the 3 way cutter that chamfers and de burrs at the same time (it's pretty slick) I have the powder drill adapter (just a hex shaft rod that you shove in instead of the turning knob. I have done a few hundred with the hand crank and that gets old real fast.!

    So it's push on the handle, insert case, pick up drill shove it in trim, put down drill remove case put in the next. etc.

    I looked at the Worlds Finest Trimmer which looks good, fast and easy but then you still need to de burr and chamfer so that is handling the same brass 2 or 3 times.Plus brass chips are flying all over (I can work that out)

    What I like is no piolts, shell holders to unlock just shove the case in by hand.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/997722?cm_vc=S014

    Then I could use this gadget.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/245424?cm_vc=S014

    So would this set up beat what I have???

    Any other ideas??
     
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  3. jmorris

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    Nothing is faster than the Dillon trimmer, once set up on a 650 or 1050 you can size/deprime and trim 1800 an hour without touching a single case.
     
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    I like the lee fl case trimmer. Its pretty easy and you can use a cordless drill. they are all the same every time. Cheap too, you just gotta buy one for every case you load.
     
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    WFT works (very very well) for me :)
     
  6. Rule3

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    Actually the price is about the same as the Hornady and RCBS do all machines. The Giraud, if I read the instructions correctly, chamfers and deburrs also.. I really can not justify spending that much but it's a no BS lifetime warranty so it may well be worth it. It looks to be the best designed/made machine. You got me thinking on that one.

    As I do not own a Dillon. their trimmer is not an option. A 1050 with case feeder and all the extras would cost more than my car.

    The WFT looks good to me, I can use it in my neighbors yard and let the chips fly.:D
     
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    You said fastest and easiest... not cheapest. ;)
     
  8. Rule3

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    I have cheapest. The Lee , Which works fine if you want to 10 or 20 rounds,No adjustment either unless you grind it down but then its permanent.

    How about, fastest, EASIEST and moderately priced.;)
     
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    Almost exactly what I doing now, He is a little faster as his cam lock shell holder releases the case. My RCBS you have to lift the case out.
     
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    Yeah, the older model Trim Pro with the rotary collet (like mine and the guy's in the vid) is slicker if you want the case to drop free.

    So you have a nice cheap quick setup already, but are looking for something faster/better/cheaper? Don't think you'll find it... ;)
     
  12. jmorris

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    The Dillon will work in any press that takes standard dies.
     
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    I have been using the Lee and an LE Wilson. I am currently transitioning to the WFT trimmers except I am looking for a better drive than a drill motor.

    I find a drill motor cumbersome. I used a battery screwdriver with the Lee. Maybe I will try my lathe but it is not convient as sitting at my reloading bench.

    After buying several WFTs, I looked again at the Giraud. Once the initial unit is purchased, additional trim modules are the same cost of the WFT trimmers.

    So, when I get the urge for a new toy, I may get a Giraud.
     
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    That was what I was trying to evaluate. It works pretty well, just cumbersome with the drill part and push down on the flat paddle that holds the case. I really do not need 500 rounds a week so I guess I will plod along.

    I like the Giraurd though!

    Thanks.
     
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    Giraud by a landslide.
     
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    Another vote for Giraud! Lightman
     
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    Dillon. When the Giraud guys are just finished sizing/deprimming, we are done trimming too.
     
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    Wow, there are a lot of votes for the Giraud but that will run you well over $400 just to trim cases. While I have no doubt it's the best tool for the job I just can't justify spending all that money when there are other much less expensive options.
     
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    Post #2
     
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    I have the Dillon which is very fast for producing .223.
    I don't chamfer and deburr my .223 since I use boat tail bullets and use them for my gas guns.

    For precision reloading I use the L.E. Wilson trimmer which is not fast at all.

    If I needed to produce large quantities of precision rounds which needed to be chamfered and deburred I would choose the Giraud myself.

    My question to Giraud owners is how long does it take to make a caliber change?
     
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    Hey Arch, What are the expansive options:D;)

    Seriously though what do you recommend?

    I have read pretty good reviews of the possum hollow trimmers

    "Quando omni flunkus moritati"
     
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    Yeah, ya gota love the spell checker when you pick one and it's the wrong word! lol

    I'm using a Forster Original Trimmer. I give one a try last year when helping a friend load up some brass and ordered it that night! Forster has all kinds of add-on tools so it does everything including pocket cleaning and neck truing. The Forster Original Case Trimmer Kit is under $100 and the kit comes with the most common Pilots and Collets you need.
     
  25. Rule3

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    The Foster is a very good machine but is essentially the same as my RCBS. Fine for a few cases but drudgery when doing a large number.

    I need more power Scotty. (actually I am just lazy and my thumb and palm of my hand hurts from cranking) I did a 100 yesterday with the drill attachment which was a lot better.

    I am gonna e mail the Worlds Finest as I have some questions and may go with that.

    Cheers
     
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