MisterNoisy
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CZ-75. It's a heavy all-steel auto pistol, the bore axis is about as low as it gets, and the grip and ergos are still the best in the business.
What's the lowest-recoil 9mm pistol?
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CZ 75 Czechmate
If that's not in budget then full size H&K USP.
If that's not in budget then full size H&K USP.
I have shot the B Cx4 and the Slovakian Grand Power K100. They have the same rotating barrel design, but since the GP is heavier it has much less perceived recoil. It was a bit odd to shoot as you can feel the barrel lock rotating "slowly" back during the action cycle. But very stable.
I think in US it is known as the STI GP6
I think in US it is known as the STI GP6
Hondo 60
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2 weeks ago I shot a Taurus PT1911 in 9mm
There was almost no recoil at all.
I have a .22 that has more recoil.
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Another vote for Beretta PX4 Storm
Rotating barrel is the reason
Rotating barrel is the reason
TMann
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If you're really want to minimize recoil (as I have since I've began having recurrent tendinitis in my right elbow), you may want to consider just getting two similar, but different guns: a large, heavy full-size gun for the range and HD, and a similar but smaller gun for carry. I get most of my practice in with the full-size gun, and shoot the carry gun just enough to remain familiar with it.
I also shoot a lot of .22.
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I also shoot a lot of .22.
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I owned a G23 (.40) so that doesn't count, way too snappy and painful for me, even 9 years ago.
After that I owned the XDM9 full size and that was a too high of a bore axis, although it felt good in my hands, still a good gun.
The M&P9L I bought after I sold the XDM9 and it has less felt recoil than the XDM9 for sure. However I like the full size 4.25" M&P though. I have wrist, hand and really bad neck pain, shooting usually lays me out for 2 days after, literally. So any less recoil is a major plus.
I went shooting last Thursday with a friend to shoot my Buckmark 22lr. Afterwards I wanted to talk to him about reloading since day before stopped by Cabela's and was looking at reloading stuff and picked up they're Shooting Catalog, he said he's been looking into it and wants to do it soon. We both agreed it's a lot more expensive than we both thought.
I also talked to my uncle today who lives close by and he's willing to go in half with me to get into it and set it up in his 2nd garage. Have to figure out the costs in the next month or two and then we'll go from there. Would be nice if all three of us could go in on some powder and bullet deals just to see if it's right for my uncle and I to do it, let alone my friend to do at his place. Don't know if my friend will eventually end up continuing to do it, let alone my uncle and I, but we all want to start. With my friend also with a separate setup, we'll be able to help each other out from time to time I'm sure.
I'm looking to get another M&P9, I'm getting the Apex FSS & Trigger again and setting it up at 3 lbs and also getting a low recoil spring for when I do the reloads. I want to get the lowest power factor 9mm loads I can get while still having it rack the slide. I want to get some of them to not rack the slide with the aftermarket spring, then I'll just add a little bit more powder. Also looking forward to the Apex 22lr conversion kit for the M&P, so I can shoot with the FSS & Trigger.
However I can also get new M&P40 FS for $445 shipped so that's tempting, I can always get a conversion barrel for it. Since some M&P 9's don't have the best accuracy anyways (well out to 25 yds which most don't shoot anyways, but nice to know you can), then the conversion barrel should fix it and I already have 3 extra M&P9 mags. Would like to get a Bar-Sto barrel when it comes out shortly, but those are even more expensive than others. If you do a Bar-Sto you might as well get one that is very accurate, but then a gunsmith will have to do it which will be very expensive. Of course I could get that M&P 357 sig for $420 shipped through CDNN. Irony is I wouldn't want to shoot the .40 or for sure the .357 sig at all, I guess if the world was ending the .40 would be nice to have as a backup for my family (as I'd be dead shortly without electricity), but just don't see me using it unless; My uncle said he'd just buy a 9mm handgun as he has a .40 right now. However if he gets the .40 reloading dies and he can get it to be lower recoil than a regular 9mm (doubt it though), then I wouldn't mind getting the M&P40 with the 9mm conversion, just in case. Have to do some more searches (Google took me to this topic) on how much less recoil you can really get with low power 9mm and .40's. Haven't found the answer yet, but really my first search on the matter.
I have never shot a CZ 75 and would really like to though, would be very interested in how it feels in the recoil department.
Essentially I'd like to get the recoil down below the Hornady Critical Defense 115gr loads. I thought they'd be even more powerful than regular ones, I was surprised, but then common sense kicked in and understood why. I don't think I've even shot a 124gr or a 147gr bullet, but I think I will be buying these 147gr ones for $94 Or one of the 124gr ones from same place for around $85. Hopefully this will help in the recoil department. Still a lot of reading to do over the next 1 to two months, well even after I get the reloading stuff I'll still be reading books and in many forums.
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Have you tried the Gen 4 Glocks? Double recoil spring, which could be beneficial to you. The Gen 4 17 may be worth a try.
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Inebriated good point for the OP; I also got to shoot the G17 Gen4 April 1st and while the ergos changed a little bit, I think it was much more comfortable than my G23 Gen3. Granted a full size should be better anyways, but the new Gen4 feels much better in my hands though.
Mine however had a lot of FTE's, sometimes 3 or 4 in one mag. It was at a mfg reps shooters show at LGS & R, but Glock didn't show up so it was the LGS's gun. I know that Apex Tactical is working on an extractor for the Gen4 that should fix it, I'm sure there's other ones out there, besides Glocks updated OEM ones.
Of course if I had more money, realistically I'd probably do 3 M&P's (all with Apex FSS & Trigger kits, unless get the 9 Shield), one 1911 9mm and one Glock Gen4 followed by another Glock or maybe one of those CZ 75's and get that 22lr conversion for it. I've also shot the S&W 1911 9mm Pro and really liked that, it's annoying only having 9 or 10 rounds though. Don't know why, it just bugs me, even though now I have that UpLula, speed loader which is a must for anyone with wrist,hand... problems. Same thing applies to Ultimate Clip Loader with Ruger MK's and Buckmarks.
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My $0.02...
I think that any all-steel, heavy gun will be really pleasant to shoot. I also think that the Beretta 92 series in pretty light in the recoil department.
In my opinion, the M&P 9 and the SR9 have the lightest recoil out of the Polymer pistols that I've shot. Superb erognomics and low bore axis.
Gunblast seems to agree with my experience. At the time of writing their review of the M&P 40, Jeff Quinn stated that the M&P was the lightest shooting 40 s&w gun that he had ever shot. A few years later while reviewing the SR40, Jeff decided that the SR40 might be the lightest shooting .40 s&w that he had ever shot, whic implies that it might handle recoil a little better than the M&P.
I think that any all-steel, heavy gun will be really pleasant to shoot. I also think that the Beretta 92 series in pretty light in the recoil department.
In my opinion, the M&P 9 and the SR9 have the lightest recoil out of the Polymer pistols that I've shot. Superb erognomics and low bore axis.
Gunblast seems to agree with my experience. At the time of writing their review of the M&P 40, Jeff Quinn stated that the M&P was the lightest shooting 40 s&w gun that he had ever shot. A few years later while reviewing the SR40, Jeff decided that the SR40 might be the lightest shooting .40 s&w that he had ever shot, whic implies that it might handle recoil a little better than the M&P.
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Tcruse
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99% of the Glock Gen 4s do not and never had a problem. Most of 1% has been fixed with upgraded RSA (free from Glock for the asking) and/or 30274 ejector (also free from Glock, just needs an ammor to get it, or purchase for $9 with trigger housing). The issue from my perspective has been way over hyped. Mine came wht the upgraded RSA so really do not know if I needed it or not. I added the 30274 ejector just be current. Still have the MIM extractor and see no reason to change. With 2000 rounds about, see no signs of wear or issues on the extractor.
As far as re-coil, Gen 4 17 is softer than Gen 3s, XDm, and Barretta 84(380 full size). The softest loads that I know about are Federal Value Pack 100 from Walmart (1120 fps). I like the Winchester WB, S&B, MFS 2000 (Brass), CCI Aluminium, Cabelas CCI Nylon Jacketed, and Aquila 124g better. The Cabelas CCI Nylon are also soft and they have the added advantage of low lead exposure and very clean to shoot.
Any gun can be made into a soft shooter by tweaking such things as spring weight, powder (burn rates of various), lowest powder charge, light bullets, heavy construction, added weights, compensators and etc. The question is why? I've done it in guns I used in IPSC competition in the early '80s but they were very expensive and sometimes finicky.
If a gun is to be a defensive piece, buy the highest quality you can afford with the features you like and learn to shoot it. Unless the gun is simply too much for the shooter (500 S&W for your 90 pound granny), recoil aversion is largely a psychological phenomenon and can be overcome by a dedicated shooter.
If a gun is to be a defensive piece, buy the highest quality you can afford with the features you like and learn to shoot it. Unless the gun is simply too much for the shooter (500 S&W for your 90 pound granny), recoil aversion is largely a psychological phenomenon and can be overcome by a dedicated shooter.
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I'd have to say Browning Hi-Power or the good ol' 92FS or it's Taurus clone PT-99...
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ku4hx, I have had my bouts with the psychological aversion to recoil. Part of it was due to a TOO light trigger. But to help me over the hump, I just purchased a Ruger New Vaquero in .45acp to help with "facing my fears".
As for this topic, CZ SP-01 is a good choice.
As for this topic, CZ SP-01 is a good choice.
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