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Whats the most you have overpaid for an reloading item in this frenzy?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by bugsbunny45, Feb 8, 2013.

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  1. plodder

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    So far, I haven't "Overpaid" for anything. I have been accumulating primer, powder & bullets for a couple of years now. Immediately after this latest election I put in a sizable order with Natchez for more powder, primer & bullets, some of it at pre-frenzy clearance prices.

    I guess I'm to blame starting the irrational hoarding!:neener:
     
  2. WSO

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    We have to admit we as a whole created and self inflicted this pain on ourselves. This scare buying should have already started to receed. I am ammo MFG and my suppliers have not jacked my prices up. GunBroker is the land of the crazy people. I munfacture a certain caliber and round that I put on gunbroker for $130 and it was bidded up to $380 / 20rds. All I have to say is patients is a virtue. Prices will go back down please do not contribute to the craziness.
     
  3. vtail

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    I had a set of Hornady 223 dies that I bought a couple of years ago for $37.00 and have never used and no longer needed.

    I listed them on eBay and sold them today for $135.00.

    This helps make up for the shell plate I bought on eBay for $70.00+.
     
  4. vtail

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    $380 for 20 rounds? Holy crap, what caliber is that for?
     
  5. WSO

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    338 Lapua Armor Piecing. That was $19 a shell!!
     
  6. ljnowell

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    I guess I may have broken the rule that I posted earlier in this thread. My dad called me and wanted me to load him some more 40S&W. I told him that I only had alimited primer supply so we would have to scrounge(I do have enough, but I break into the stash for NO ONE! HAHAHAH, that and I wanted to hit the gunshow and gunshops today!). At the gunshow, nothing undert 45 per K. At the first gunshop, a little out in the country place with a trap setup I found Winchester, Federal, and Sellior and Bellot primers. I bought my dad 1k of the S&B for 35 bucks. Thats more than I would pay, but its technically him paying. I also got him a pound of AA5 to use with this load, and it was overpriced in my opinion, at 21 /lb.

    Since he is paying for it, I guess it really doesnt count though.
     
  7. EMC45

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    NOT A THING! Bought some primers a couple years back at $15 thousand. They were Wolf SSP. I bought accordingly. Now some folks will tell you that Wolf or Tula primers are junk and would never use them.....I wonder if they feel that way now?...............
     
  8. Arkansas Paul

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    I paid $44/1k for primers.
    However, that's only about $5-$7 more than usual here, so I feel that I didn't get hosed too bad. Store still has them in stock at that price too. I would let my press sit on the bench and rust before I paid $90/1k.
     
  9. ArchAngelCD

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    I still feel that way... although i don't think they are junk i just don't want to use them. It doesn't matter how high American primers go because I'm not participating in the madness.
     
  10. hueyville

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    Have not overpaid for a single item. Still paying within 10% of what I was before the panic. But I have sold ammo to idiots for stupid money. Also kept some good friends shooting for anywhere between free to what I paid originally if they insisted. Absolutely nuts what some guys will pay for milspec SS109 Factory loaded ammo. Could not let that money pass me buy. Also had to let several folks have SKS's with 600 rounds ammo included per rifle. I let them make offer then just grimaced like it hurt and handed them what they asked for at the price they offered. All in all, guns been very, very good to me lately.
     
  11. GLOOB

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    Well, use what ya got, for sure. I'm glad I have any primers at all. A little more glad they're Winchesters. :)
     
  12. EMC45

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    Oh I have Winchesters, and Federals, and CCIs, and Remingtons. I just have a good bit of the Wolf on hand.
     
  13. silicosys4

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    The only thing I've overpaid for was 500 LC 5.56 brass for $60. I paid $135 for 1k 147 gr. .308 projectiles, but this was just as the panic began and though they were overpriced, they weren't overpriced due to panic.

    I'm incredibly lucky in that I started reloading about 6 months ago and spent what I thought at the time was a crazy amount to get set up to with all equipment including dies, shellplates, brass, powder, molds, lead, and primers for each caliber I shoot. Basically went from nothing to a progressive and single stage, and all supporting equipment for 5 handgun calibers including casting, lubing, and sizing lead handgun bullets, and 4 rifle calibers. Still haven't used most of the rifle equipment, primers, or powder.
    It cost me about $3000, lord knows what it would cost now.

    I will admit to buying in quantities that I didn't feel I needed before, but at the same prices I was paying before 12/12. Luckily I was able to pick up 10lbs or so of powder at wally world the last week of December, and 10k of various primers (LPP, SPP, LRP, LMRP) that I wouldn't have felt I needed to "hoard" prior to December, 2012.
    Learned my lesson, there will always be a few thousand projectiles, powder, and 10k primers in the house that will be in reserve.
     
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  14. hueyville

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    Shooters, especially reloaders are renown for being free thinkers and self suffient. I have been trying a little louder lately as I read all the whine on this BBS, others and out in the world. Trying to be more vocal to those that were caught flat footed and cannot shoot as much or in some cases all due to themselves being their own worse enemy in this. I have been called everything from a felon, gouger, unfair and much, much worse. Due to this, I am beginning to many believe socializing the shooting sports is the answer. Each American gets their government mandated quantity of ammo so nobody has to feel left out.

    For over 25 years I have never gone to Wallyworld without dropping an extra brick of their budget 22lr ammo in my cart. So had I not done that, apparently some believe those dusty bricks from 20 years ago would be stuck behind a Teddy bear in the toy department. For 30+ years I have bought a few boxes of primers more than I actually could use. Had I left them be, the gun stores would all have a bunch of old stock primers in their back room with a 9.95 per brick price on them, eh? So now the crap has hit the fan and all of the paranoid but unprepared shooters are out of ammo and components. There are many like me that have been putting up for the proverbial rainy day and now that its here we are putting them on the open market of a free society for anyone to purchase at a price they name themselves in the auction process.

    So we entered a small microcosm of the commodities market to be prepared to support our own needs and maybe sell a few extras to help others while defraying our shooting expenses in the process. Add in that like I, quite a few purchased rifles that they were not particularly partial to because they were priced very well for what their potential worth might be some day. Knowing that some day those products could be declared illegal to own or sell nd thus be out of a huge investment. I never bought rifles just for the express purpose to resale, that said, I don't own a single firearm that offered the right sum I would not sell.

    So now I find our country in a state that some rifles I bought in the 1980's are worth a great sum more than I paid. If my intention had to be to mark up and sell, they would have all been gone less than 20 years later. For a six week period I put two a week in my truck, let it be known, and every person that made me an offer that satisfied the two of us it changed hands. During this time 11 rifles were sold. Yes for a good profit but had I put that money in Apple at the same time I would have made a lot more. So are the people that bought Apple stock a bunch of hoarders and gougers?

    I had 1/4 million rounds of 22lr above and beyond my need. Eleven bricks were given away for free. Over fifty were sold for price marked on box to people that I knew. About 100 bricks were sold at 38.00 per brick which in this market was a bargain and the people I sold them to said so. The rest went on auction sites to the highest bidder. This will allow me to replace all of my ammo when the market levels. It will help subsidize the next 500 Boy Scouts I help get their merit badge for free. I have used some of the proceeds already to buy three additional 10/22's and parts kits to build them into reasonably accurate semi-customs with iron sights just for Boy Scouts.

    Through this all I was able to put a total of 15 people into a gun who didn't have one and needed it. Every single gun I sold was supplied with 500 to 600 rounds of ammo, 12 sets of disposable ear plugs, cleaning kit and the ones (about half) were invited to my business where I showed them how to clean, operate and let them fire said rifles. Five of the men hf never shot anything but a rimfire in their life. Had I not stockpiled this stuff at my risk a lot of folks would be doing without right now. On my primers, 30% were sold at 32.00 plus 7% as that is shelf price in my area currently. 20% were sold at price marked on box. The other half went on auction sites where the bidders chose the price themselves. Not my problem they saw more value in them than I did.

    Out of this entire deal only half of my stockpile was sold at panic market price. The rest went at fair price. I tried to help several regular users on this site who turned and left me hanging with product I bought only for them because I had access and they backed out of the deal after I invested my own cash. I have helped a few and will help some more. But now I have separated the wheat from the chaff and will choose more wisely who I do help out. I would bet even money that most of you that have chastised me would do the same thing if you were intelligent enough to have saved up like I did.

    The bottom line is there are 1/4 million rounds of rimfire distributed among the people instead of me sitting on it like home furnishing. I sold 75,000 rounds of .223, 5,000 of 7.62x39 and some others. It actually eases the demands on the market from my view. I worded my recent posts purposely to weed out the crybabies and to try and get through some thick skulled, dimwitts that they are going to have to learn or go through this again. Some of the people I sold ammo and magazines to were the same I had to prop up during the Bush 1 ban who were not smart enough to learn. So buck up little campers and realize your guns are useless if your out of ammo. Feds don't have to ever ban guns, just an order that shut down the ammunition supply line would render 90% of them usefully only as a club after their owners went through their last box of ammo.

    Now I find as other regions are still barren of ammo I can walk into my local retail vendor, purchase a product that is sitting on the shelf for ANYONE to buy. Then take home, list it on the internet and people who apparently have a need buy it. Is it better sitting on the shelf in my town or up for sale where anyone in the country can access it? Up to each to form an opinion but I promise I am not getting rich. I have purchased a few new nice.rifles to replace the junky Combloc guns I bought in days past. But at least this process has been enlightening as those I have helped were gracious and thankful. The sideline sitters and fans in the crowd seem to be divided and some downright mean. My guess is the mean ones are the ones that will get caught with empty cupboards next time. Just seems to be the way the world works.

    So one last tip from your Uncle Huey. The average grocery store in the average city in America has three days food supply on their shelves. We have seen in every major hurricane, tornado outbreak, earthquake or even big snow storm the majority of people began running out of food in just a couple of days. Right now I would wait for components and ammo to level out if I were out because it will. In the meantime, spend your time that is not at the range and calculate how many calories per day it takes to feed your family. Once done, figure out how to buy and store enough to feed them minimum 30 days. Don't tell me you cannot feed them with a rifle. Let all your neighbors get in the same situation and start shooting every game animal in the region and see how that works out for you.

    Also do some studying about free market societies, the people who built this country and how. Then next time you see some investor in widgets cash in while your bag of widgets is dry you will realize he made his own luck based on risk and work. Your bag is empty because you chose not to fill it when the opportunity existed. Plain and simple, not the hoarders or gougers fault. It is yours and if you can't see it or admit in, you one of the ones that is going to help drive the good ol U.S. of A. into the dirt. Meanwhile, think I will wander downstairs to the reloading room and pull the handle on the blue beast as shooting a couple hundred rounds a day requires a bit o work.
     
  15. PlaneJain

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    Whats the most you have overpaid for an reloading item in this frenzy?

    Absolutely nothing. I have stocked up on reloading supplies since I moved out of my parents house and started going to school.

    Just before the 'crash' I bought 5000 rounds of 22lr for 160 dollars, and then back-ordered 10 PMags from DSGH for 110 dollars. :what:
    They finally arrived last week:



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  16. Kachok

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    A pound of 4350 for $30! I never though I would see the day!
     
  17. clone

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    Meh, I'm well stocked on 22lr and 22mag from well before the scare. I reload for everything center fire and I'm well stock for that to. I haven't bought anything but a couple boxes of Maxi-Mag 22mag during the scare and that was 12.99 a box. I will be fine even if the panic continues for another 5 years.

    I did buy a Marlin camp 9 (with 4 mags) for $600, a Marlin camp 45 (with 2 mags) for $560, and a Marlin 883M (with ammo) for $300 all during the scare. But that's about the going rate before the panic.

    This is the time to buy bolt action, single shot and pump guns, when a lot of people are selling them to fund semi autos and ammo for them. Most can be had really cheap to. ;)
     
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    I just won a bid on E-Bay for a new Hornady LNL AP for $947.57--I am so happy I could almost make love to my Mother-In-Law:)

    Smokeyloads
     
  19. mayassa

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    I was paying up to $50 per 1000 then I stopped after 3000 and kicked myself in the ass. I sold off those primers at cost then went and placed a few decent orders at $32 per 1000 for bench rest SRP and some LP and SP at $32 also. I sold of all the powder I overpaid for ($28 lb) and finally picked up some online for $130 for 8lbs plus hazmat for 24lbs so roughly I paid 18 lb. I stopped panic shopping.
     
  20. hueyville

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    Mayassa, good on you sir. If more will sit back and think rationally instead of letting.the emotion of fear and panic dictate their buying habits, this will all settle down more quickly.
     
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    I think it struck me when I walked into my LGS and he went up to $68 per 1K my jaw hit the ground and asked him why did they go up from $50 per 1K last week he said they are selling for more on gun broker, I asked your going to loose your long term customers with these prices. He said he would make up for it in the short term. I told him good luck with that plan and I would never darken his doorstep again. Then I put everything I picked up from him on craigslist. Its all gone and people want more at those crazy prices I paid for.
     
  22. hueyville

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    My LGS's except one are holding prices unless a distributor raises a bit on them. They are doing brisk business. The other is trying to get internet prices and his stuff is getting dusty.
     
  23. Hungry1

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    WOW! Your MIA must be HOT! :neener: :D

    Enjoy your new press :)
     
  24. Honest John

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    $0. The first rule of panic buying is don't do it. The second rule of panic buying is don't do it.
     
  25. SquirrelNuts

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    Waiting this out. I have enough on hand to keep me busy.
     
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