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Like one of the local owners told me, "It's to keep the insurance lawyers happy. If you're planning on carrying out what you carried in, I didn't see a thing."
 
It's a safety issue, not a political statement. A lot of gun handling takes place in a gun store, they just don't want loaded guns in the mix.
 
It's a safety issue, not a political statement. A lot of gun handling takes place in a gun store, they just don't want loaded guns in the mix.

I can accept this but not the way they are carrying it out. A blanket statement like no concealed carry just so they can cut down on the number of loaded guns in their establishment? Come on.
 
Just walk on by!

Insurance or safety issues or however they try to jusify it, how do we get other businesses to allow CCing when those in the gun busines won't allow it?

If I see a gun store with a no CC policy I won't spend my money there. If they don't support the rights of their customers then I won't support their business!
 
I agree with a lot of what was said here.

Please note, I did not name the shop nor is the shop's name visible in the picture. I agree in capitalism, vote with your wallet if you care to.

This is not meant to defame this shop in any way.
I see nothing wrong with naming the store; as a matter of fact, it saves those of us that won't go in the store the trouble of finding out after getting there.
 
Doesnt seem like a big deal to me. It may have to do with theft prevention. If you already have a gun in your pocket it might be tougher to tell if thats yours or theirs? IDK?

When I go to Cabellas they have a policy where you have to check your gun at the door. Pretty similiar to this store. At the front register they unload it and put a lock on it. Then you can go shop around and try things on it like scopes laser pointers, etc... Same thing when I took my gun to The best in the west gun show in Reno, NV. I could take my gun in but it had to be unloaded and they put a zip tie around the cylinder of my revolver to keep it closed. No big deal to me. I figure its just a security concern, either to deter theft or for safety in case I take my gun out and start playing with it loaded or something?

Anyway In both places there where ppl there that where armed and ready. So it wasnt an issue that we'd all be defensless if some wolf came apon us.
 
I don't see a problem. I bet it helps keep down the shop-lifting.

I can imagine a conversation with the store clerk. "Oh no sir, this here is MY gun, I brought it in with me. I like Mexican carry, you know just jammed down inside my undies, that's how I roll."

I like keeping honest folks, well, honest.
 
It may have to do with theft prevention. If you already have a gun in your pocket it might be tougher to tell if thats yours or theirs? IDK?
I don't see a problem. I bet it helps keep down the shop-lifting.
These comments are completely off. A firearm on a dealer's shelf is a federally regulated item. There is a specific procedure for recording the serial number of every gun that comes into their possession. They could no more mistake your personally owned gun for one of theirs than they could claim to own the car you drove there in. And a shoplifter could not possibly make a claim to own a gun that was still logged into the FFL's bound book.

So that's an invalid point.

When I go to Cabellas they have a policy where you have to check your gun at the door.
Cabela's has a policy that all guns coming in for sale or gunsmithing (or otherwise to be handled in the store) are to be checked in and cleared at the service counter. That makes sense as guns being handled in a crowded place do pose a liability that the store needs to address. A securely holstered personal defensive sidearm is completely different. It is not to be handled or touched in any way until/unless the moment of dire need. It poses no threat to the store or any other customer -- a holstered gun is a SAFE gun.

(At least in my state) every one of those signs at the front door says, "This does not apply to our customers who CCW."

Anyway In both places there where ppl there that where armed and ready.
They have armed guards at Cabelas? :D
 
They have armed guards at Cabelas?
, Well maybe not cabellas. I was thinking of the gun store there. miss typed that a lil.

Anyway I just see this as a way for the owners of that property to keep an amount of controll over what happens on their premisses. They arent the enemy here. If they didnt support the right to keep and bear arms, I doubt they would be issuing out ccw's. They just want to know if your bringing a gun in to there store/ they want to keep an eye on things. Like when I go to my friends house Id imagine hed want to know if I was carrying or not.
 
Like I said, by Florida state law (I lived there 32yrs), you are not required to abide the sign. I'm pretty sure the shopowners know that.
 
Anyway I just see this as a way for the owners of that property to keep an amount of controll over what happens on their premisses.

.gov has the same idea.

They arent the enemy here. If they didnt support the right to keep and bear arms, I doubt they would be issuing out ccw's.

Gunshops in Florida don't have the authority to issue concealed permits.

If you think a gunshop is pro second because they sell firearms, you really need to do a little research. Many dealers were strongly opposed to the AWB sunsetting. Some lost quite a bit of money. With rare exceptions (none I'm aware of), all are in business to make money. The bottom line will trump virtually anything else.
 
Skinny 1950 said:
Conceal Carry Permits are impossible for the average citizen to get,I don't have a problem with that. To own handguns in Canada you have to belong to a shooting club and have a permit to transport them to and from the range, again I can live with that.

In the US we have an organization that holds to those exact same beliefs. They are called the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. You might want to check them out, you will find some like minded folks there.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/

They (and organizations like them) are becoming more and more of a minority in the U.S., however, as we have discovered that areas in the U.S. which have such laws and regulations in place have become hotbeds of criminal activity. Criminals love to congregate in places where the average citizen has very little legal means of self defense available to them.
 
Those creepy looking dummy things would be enough to keep me away.

The one on the left is hooked up to a motion senson so if you walk in/out it bangs on that drum.

Oh man... I wonder how many people have punched, maced, tasered, or drawn on that thing when it started drumming.

KR
 
Mitch from LA- I was once reprimanded at the Sheriff's Dept. range for firing too quickly even though all of my shots were on target.

I went to one of the local ranges a couple of years ago, and I told them I was mostly interested in function testing, and not all that concerned with accuracy. I had 5 guns with me I had never shot before, all purchased from auction sites, and I was just going to run about 100 rounds through each of them as fast as I could, to get an idea of how reliable they were and if there were any issues with anything falling off, etc. I didn't have a lot of time to do this, as I had to go to work a couple hours later. "No problem" the guy who signed me in said. I took my first gun out, an EAA Witness .45, and shoot 10 rounds slowly through it, it was a brand new gun. It had no issues, so I shoved a second mag in, and shot that one as fast as I could pull the trigger, and then another mag full. I only had three mags, so I'm loading them up again, and this guy comes over and says, "You're shooting too fast!". I said, "Too fast for what?". He looks at me like I'm nuts and says, "For accuracy!" I explained I wasn't worried about that, I just wanted to make sure they WORKED, that's all. He seemed to be ok with that, but when I shot the three mags through the gun again, he comes on the PA, which is super LOUD, and says, "Sir (I was the only one there), you need to slow down!" I went out into the lobby and asked him what he didn't understand. I didn't care where I hit, all I cared about was putting rounds through the guns, that's IT. The owner was there, and he said it was fine. I went back in and I went through at least 100 rounds in all five guns, and then packed up to leave, and picked up my brass to have a friend reload, and then I went outside to pay up, he starts lecturing me about "wasting ammo". I asked him how putting rounds through my guns, and finding out they all functioned perfectly, was wasting them, because I didn't take the time to actually try to shoot a paper target accurately? We argued about it for a while, and I left.

A couple weeks later, I brought 2 of the same ones back, along with another new to me gun. I shot the two I had shot previously fairly decently, and then with the last one, I put 3 fifteen round mags of some weird brand of crap ammo through it quickly, and here comes the "shooting speed policeman", just as I began to actually try to shoot it accurately with WWB stuff. I just asked him, "Really, don't you have something more important to do than to worry how fast or slow I shoot MY guns?". His reply, "Just trying to help sir!". I told him, "The only thing you're trying to help is to help raise my blood pressure! Please leave me alone, unless I'm doing something that is endangering myself or someone else!". He muttered and he did leave me alone, but anytime I come back, he talks about me while I'm shooting to anyone in the store, my grip is wrong, I close one eye, etc, etc. I basically taught myself to shoot, and I suppose it's wrong, but at one point I was very good. I stopped shooting for a long time, and I stink, but I am getting better, and his comments aren't going to change my methods at this point.
The place is very handy, location wise, but it's expensive to shoot there, and his talking about me annoys the hell out of me, so I don't go back very often. I usually shoot for free in a friend's backyard, but he's selling the place, and I'll have to find another place to shoot, I guess.
 
But, I see 3 bullet holes on the glass door. Maybe some ccw guy was pissed about the store policy.

LOL, those aren't real. Like someone else said, those signs have no legal effect in Florida. Concealed means concealed.
 
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