When is a .223 Better than an 9mm?

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I'm trying to rationalize my purchases and sales right now, like so many others are.

For someone:
-who does not use an AR as a "Tool" (That's what my 870s are for)
-shoots strictly paper generally within 50-100 yards max
-lives in an urban environment
-does not compete (for now)

Under what circumstances would a .223 be better than a 9mm?
 
well, .223 is better out to 100 yds than 9mm. That's all it would offer for you, based off of your given criteria
 
Aside from price, pretty much always. .223/5.56 is definitely more useful, in my opinion.

It seems to me that a less expensive platform would be order, since I'm assuming you're looking at a 9mm for the cheaper ammo.
 
Given the OP's list it seems to me 9mm wins simply based on cost.

The list removes any usefulness or ballistics. If punching paper is what you want, I'd think cost per shot would be king.

For an actual "real" use, the .223 is always going to win.
 
At what approx distance does the .223 noticeably overtake the 9mm in terms of accuracy?
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In an AR style rifle for casual target shooting? Probably not enough difference to worry about out to 100 yards. In my opinion anyway.

But, that's about the limit.
 
Under what circumstances would a .223 be better than a 9mm?
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Pushing out a drift pin, the pointy nose of a .223 has an advantage over the round nose of a 9mm.

Well, that, and fending of a zombie attack.
 
One of the range rats where I shoot uses a Beretta CX4 Storm 9mm in tactical rifle competitions. Out to 100 yards he has no trouble at all doing the same job as the others that are using the AR clones in .223. If the task is punching paper or knocking down poppers then it would seem that the 9mm isn't a bad option.
 
The two rounds have two distinct uses. The .223 is intended to defend oneself from mass attack (i.e. Katrina, L.A. Riots). Frankly, unless you are in the military it has very little use outside of that. (I can think of better target rounds.) The 9mm is intended to fight your way back to your .223 so you can defend yourelf from mass attack. You know what? You should get both.:D

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mark,


go here: http://scssa.org/new_page_3.htm

you will have a blast. (there are lots of pics, videos of previous matches on the internet. google away)

rifle/carbine shooting is so much better in every way than pistol shooting.
 
If I were the one doing the 100-yard shooting, I'd take the .223. At that distance, the 9mm ought to have a much higher standard deviation from the mean point of impact than the .223--this is to say, the group will be much bigger. The more accurate your implement is, the easier it is to figure out that it is you, not the implement, that is causing less than fantastic groupings, which makes fixing bad shooting habits easier.
 
For paper punching, why waste all of that money on 9mm?

If you don't want to use an AR as a defensive tool, I'd suggest a .22LR upper. Actually I'd suggest something other than an AR.

The only time I would prefer a 9mm AR over a .223 AR is on a suppressed SBR for fun.
 
if you dont wanto to spend money in 223 try one of the following

- AR-15 22lr conversion kit
- Hi-Point 995 9mm
- GSG-5 22lr
- Kel-Tec Sub 2000 9mm/.40sw
 
223 does everything better, in my opinion, and the cost ? just get some milsurp.
or silver bear, or wolf, or barnaul, or monarch, or T/c russian.
 
when is the 556 better than the 9 you ask. every time i pull the trigger
 
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