When purchasing a gun, have you ever been "Delayed" or "Denied"?

[DammitBoy]

Get 15 minute delays almost all the time these days, started about 3 years ago. Never had an issue before that.

 

[Red Wind]

Never denied. One delay 6 years ago, but it seems the system was temporarily down.

 

[dogtown tom]

sniper762 once the ffl gets a "delay" and 3 days expire with no update from nics, the ffl MUST transfer the weapon to you and you have LEGAL posession. NO NICS ACTION WILL FOLLOW

Absolutely, 100%, completely and wholly false.:banghead:

1. There is no federal law that requires a licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to anyone for any reason.
Example: You complete and sign your 4473 and the dealer calls in the NICS check......you get a "proceed". The dealer can choose at this point to deny the sale for any reason he wants......shifty eyes, runny nose, bad breath or because you keep talking to your imaginary friend.

2. After the three business days has elapsed, the dealer IS NOT PROHIBITED from transferring the firearm........and NICS may return a status of "denied" days later. This is why some dealers (especially big box stores) absolutely will not transfer the firearm until they recieve a proceed.

 

[Hondo 60]

Nope, no delays.
And I've bought quite a few guns over the last 5 years.

 

[Jet-mech]

I can't remember the last time I wasn't delayed. Happens pretty much every time. How long of a delay varies. Could be a few minutes , could be a week.
Never been denied though.

 

[ColeK]

I've never been denied but was delayed once for about 10 mins because the system was down.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

Always instant for me before my CCW. AZ was overwhelmed with CCW applications and when asked if I had an AZ CCW I could honestly answer "I'm not sure". My last NICS check was after the approval date on my CCW when it arrived in the mail later.

Mike

 

[dogtown tom]

ColeK I've never been denied but was delayed once for about 10 mins because the system was down.

A NIC "delay" means the FBI needs additional time to complete your background check............not because the dealer takes a long time to process your 4473/NICS. A NICS "delay" is an official status provided to the dealer by the FBI and recorded on your 4473.

Arizona_Mike .....and when asked if I had an AZ CCW I could honestly answer "I'm not sure". My last NICS check was after the approval date on my CCW when it arrived in the mail later.

You actually have to have the firearm permit in hand to be able to use it as an exemption to the NIC check. The dealer has to record the type of permit, issue or expiration date and the permit#. Merely telling the dealer "yes, i have a CHL/CPL/CCW/etc" isn't good enough.

 

[xxjumbojimboxx]

God it is the most frustrating thing because my delays are random, sometimes I get them, sometimes I don't... with the side of don't being more frequent. Its usually well less then the three day period... But its gone as long as 5 or so. (my first gun took 5 days at academy)

 

[AppealPlay]

In Virginia, background checks are performed by the Virginia State Police. The number of checks has far exceeded the amount of funding allocated to the VSP. This has led to completely ridiculous problems with delays. I was at Green Top buying a gun a few months ago around the panic and just about everyone was delayed. It took ~45 minutes for the VSP to catch up.

 

[mgkdrgn]

Mine always gets delayed for about 5 or 10 minutes unless I give my SSN. Not sure what the hiccup is. Never been denied, and never a long delay.

The "hiccup" is likely someone else with a similar name, or sounding name, and the SSN helps them separate you from them.

 

[mgkdrgn]

A buddy of mine works at the gun counter at an Academy Sports, and he say's every time somebody named Smith or Jones tries to buy a gun, they always get delayed.

Not my experience here in SC using NICS.

 

[mgkdrgn]

Thanks to all that have voted.

I am not a fan of the NICS and was "Delayed" for 30 days, tried again and one day later got the approval.

If you got "Delayed" for 30 days ... it wasn't NICS. After 3 days NICS goes to OPEN, and the FFL -may- complete the transfer. After 30 days it drops off the system all together.

 

[mgkdrgn]

I always get put on delay.
Funny thing is I have a Concealed Carry License.

IF you are using NICS, and not some State bastardized system, you should consider the VAF system to help with that.

www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/appeals/nics-appeals-process/appeals-home

 

[mgkdrgn]

I get the standard 3 day delay per brady act.

Why?
Well, my dad has the same name as me, and he has been in federal and state trouble.
Apparently there is also a guy with the same name as me, similar birth-date that gets into some trouble a few counties north from here.

I would apply for a UPIN, but I don't like the feds digging around anymore than is already necessary. I have enough arms to where my purchases are not "critical".

One time, I didn't have to wait the 3 days. I had to wait 2...lol then I got proceeded.

They do the same digging (sans the fingerprints) they do for the UPIN as they do for all of your gun purchases ... all you are doing is saving them (and you) time.

 

[mgkdrgn]

I get delayed almost everytime! I've gotten use to it tho, did miss out on my first mosin last week at a gun show cause of it tho! Did get the proceed yesterday but I'm not driving two hours for a mosin.

The VAF and a UPIN will be your friend.

 

[mgkdrgn]

once the ffl gets a "delay" and 3 days expire with no update from nics, the ffl MUST transfer the weapon to you and you have LEGAL posession. NO NICS ACTION WILL FOLLOW

Ummm .... nope

"may" and "must" start with the same letter, but they ain't da same word.

For a firearm transfer, the FFL is "god almighty" ... except for a DENY. Even with a proceed they can refuse to complete the transfer for any, or no, reason, and there is not thing one anyone can do about it.

 

[mgkdrgn]

If Ohio uses NICS .... UPIN and VAF will help with that.

 

[medalguy]

As a Texas resident I was always denied, usually for a day. Then I got my Texas CHL, and as they say, the rest is history. I really don't understand why all states don't use the CHL in lieu of the the background check.

 

[climbnjump]

Was delayed a couple days one time years ago. I hate putting my SSN on forms, so I tried to get by w/o it once. The problem is that I have a very common name and at the time shared a street address (large apartment bldg) with someone else with my same name (I didn't know this until later). He was not quite an "upstanding citizen" and the resulting confusion on which one of "us" I was caused the delay. I've always used my SSN since and have never again been delayed.

 

[stressed]

I get delayed for 1 day, but my LGD told me that it's common among veterans? He has 6 other vets he deals with - who all get delayed as well... So I dunno.

 

[bigdogpete]

Never slowed down or denied. CHP sure helps.

 

[Glock Doctor]

No, never. Not even once in the past 52 years. (And mostly in New Jersey, no less!)

 

[dogtown tom]

medalguy As a Texas resident I was always denied, usually for a day.

Denials aren't for a day.............they deny the transfer until you file a NICS appeal and it is ruled in your favor (which takes MONTHS). You received a delay, not a denied response.

Then I got my Texas CHL, and as they say, the rest is history. I really don't understand why all states don't use the CHL in lieu of the the background check.

Only states whose firearm permits meet certain standards qualify as exemptions to the NICS. Among the requirements are a background check of the applicant and an expiration of no more than five years ("lifetime" permits do not meet the requirement)

 

[Wolfgang james]

Here in the grand ole nys ive never had a delay that I know of. After the guy goes in the back room for 15min they come back saying you're all set. In my early 20s I had a few misdemeanors that hasn't slowed down the process. Even a local arrest warrant that i didn't know about had no effect lol